# You steal a camera during MY Workshop? Fuck you, you piece of messed-up shit !

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 19, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223 "2010-07-19T14:22:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/121 "2010-07-20T19:51:32Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> 1.) I’m suspicious of the fact that \*\*Cartooniverse \*\*has never responded to say that he _did_, in fact, view the security tapes.

Yeah, i’d be interested to know if the OP actually saw a security tape with the suspect stealing the camera, or if it’s all supposition and circumstantial evidence.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/122 "2010-07-20T20:07:42Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> 1.) I’m suspicious of the fact that \*\*Cartooniverse \*\*has never responded to say that he _did_, in fact, view the security tapes.

He started another thread about the heat earlier today, but hasn’t come back here. I’m kind of suspicious/curious about that myself.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/123 "2010-07-20T20:14:17Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Smoking pot has nothing to do with somebody’s likeliness to steal shit. \*\*This particular pothead \*\*happens to be a fucking loser.

I call BS on this one.

Being high compromises your mental function. This dude was high. It certainly doesnt seem to be much a stretch to me that a high person might be more likely than a sober/not high person to use the five finger discount if an easy opportunity arose.

Hell, isnt that almost the definition of being drunk/high? Doing minor stupid shit you’d almost never do sober?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/124 "2010-07-20T20:33:32Z")

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No, marijuana does not lower inhibitions the way alcohol does, or make people more likely to steal. That’s complete horseshit.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/125 "2010-07-20T20:33:56Z")

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Personally, I think the biggest smoking gun (aside from surveillance footage, of course) is that the pothead found the camera in a highly improbable place. No one throws away an expensive camera.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/126 "2010-07-20T20:33:59Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I call BS on this one.
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> Being high compromises your mental function. This dude was high. It certainly doesnt seem to be much a stretch to me that a high person might be more likely than a sober/not high person to use the five finger discount if an easy opportunity arose.
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> Hell, isnt that almost the definition of being drunk/high? Doing minor stupid shit you’d almost never do sober?

Naw. I don’t think getting high in and of itself will make someone otherwise not inclined to steal into a thief. At least, I’ve never (anecdotally) observed this as a side effect of such intoxication.

OTOH - showing up high to an event _inappropriately_ may be a sign that the guy’s an ass, and asses may, arguably, be more inclined to such stuff.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/127 "2010-07-20T21:08:06Z")

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The heat thread was started a couple of days ago; if I remember correctly, **Cartooniverse** is in New York, and is likely to be travelling today.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/128 "2010-07-20T21:08:49Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> No, marijuana does not lower inhibitions the way alcohol does, or make people more likely to steal. That’s complete horseshit.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/129 "2010-07-20T21:25:20Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Doing minor stupid shit you’d almost never do sober?

For most of us, stealing an expensive item from a store isn’t “minor stupid shit”. Most of us recognize the moral and legal downside (possible felony depending on value of item).

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/130 "2010-07-20T21:31:11Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Cite?

To be fair, I’d say “marijuana intoxication makes one more likely to steal” is what needs a cite. Fuck if I’ve ever heard of such a thing.

Neither I nor anyone I know has ever ripped a bong-load and felt immediately compelled to pull off an Ocean’s 1x-style caper.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/131 "2010-07-20T21:36:12Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> The heat thread was started a couple of days ago; if I remember correctly, **Cartooniverse** is in New York, and is likely to be travelling today.

Well, he posted in that thread at 3:47 today…

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/132 "2010-07-20T21:37:02Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> For most of us, stealing an expensive item from a store isn’t “minor stupid shit”. Most of us recognize the moral and legal downside (possible felony depending on value of item).

Fair enough..but when your not high or drunk that is 🙂

To be more specific, I mostly meant “minor” in the sense that it was EASY to do and EASY to get away with. A spur of the moment grab rather than an Oceans Eleven heist plot if you will.

I just love all the potheads getting all hot and bothered here. I like to drink but you sure as shit won’t see me saying statistically speaking that people that drink are NO different at all than people that don’t. A good bit of being up the Nile River here if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/133 "2010-07-20T21:41:02Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> To be fair, I’d say “marijuana intoxication makes one more likely to steal” is what needs a cite. Fuck if I’ve ever heard of such a thing.
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> Neither I nor anyone I know has ever ripped a bong-load and felt immediately compelled to pull off an Ocean’s 1x-style caper.

Well, I guess for a high pothead, grabbing a camera and stuffing it in a jacket IS an Oceans Eleven plot (btw my other post was composed and posted before I saw yours).

And fuck the cite shit. If you can’t cite what you think and I can’t cite what I think, then its all just our fucking opinions isnt it? And with Dio on your side that should give anyone pause.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/134 "2010-07-20T21:50:19Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Fair enough..but when your not high or drunk that is 🙂

Did you really used to steal shit when you used to get high or drunk? I mean, you have been high or drunk before, right?

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> To be more specific, I mostly meant “minor” in the sense that it was EASY to do and EASY to get away with. A spur of the moment grab rather than an Oceans Eleven heist plot if you will.

The kind of low impulse control dirtbag that we’d be talking about in this case is someone I wouldn’t want near me when he was sober or anything else. And if his impulse control really was that bad even when sober, it’d be pretty obvious.

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> I just love all the potheads getting all hot and bothered here. I like to drink but you sure as shit won’t see me saying statistically speaking that people that drink are NO different at all than people that don’t. A good bit of being up the Nile River here if you ask me.

Sure, stoners as a group would tend to have some characteristics more than a control population would. I doubt that a propensity for pilferage is one of them.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/135 "2010-07-20T21:50:42Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> And fuck the cite shit. If you can’t cite what you think and I can’t cite what I think, then its all just our fucking opinions isnt it? And with Dio on your side that should give anyone pause.

**Dio** isn’t “on my side,” I’m just capable of separating his legitimate points from his idiotic ones.

If the guy took the camera it’s because he’s a fucking idiot thief, not some boy scout thrown into kleptomanic delirium by the demon marihuana.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/136 "2010-07-20T22:30:42Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Cite?

This is anecdotal evidence (like most of the material **Diogenes** has previously posted in this thread), admittedly, but I have a friend who’s a major league pothead (he’s a professional - well, dinner theatre - actor, as well; I’m not sure if that has any bearing on his potheadedness); I mean, the guy’s so in love with pot, he really should marry it (or at least get a room for the both of them). Anyway, the only thing the guy’s ever stolen, high or not, is music over the internet. The guy’s simply not a thief IRL, and no amount of marijuana (and, trust me, the guy smokes like his life depends on it) has made him suddenly turn into a kleptomaniac.

On this one, I’m happy to say, **Dio** is quite right.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/137 "2010-07-20T22:33:53Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I just love all the potheads getting all hot and bothered here.

“_All_ the potheads getting all hot and bothered”?

Really?

Because I see only one in this thread reacting as you say.

And speaking of getting all hot and bothered, you seem to be a little warm under the collar yourself.

Actually, upon further reflection, it’s _you_ whose panties seem to be twisted up tighter than those of **Dio**.

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**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/138 "2010-07-20T22:40:00Z")

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I’m not yet convinced that this stoner stole anything, at least not by what has been posted so far. Rather, I see someone being accused primarily because they smoke pot and found the missing camera.

It would sure be nice if the person that started the fucking thread paid attention to it.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/139 "2010-07-20T23:36:18Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Well, he posted in that thread at 3:47 today…

I see; I also see he posted in that thread even earlier, too (my research skills are apparently somewhat lacking). Oh well. Maybe he just hates this thread.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/140 "2010-07-21T00:19:14Z")

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Perhaps **Dio** was smoking some really, _really_ shitty weed?

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