# You steal a camera during MY Workshop? Fuck you, you piece of messed-up shit ! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223 "2010-07-19T14:22:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/161 "2010-07-22T20:50:34Z")
$5 says the OP watched the security cam footage, realized he was wrong, and is too childish to come back and admit it like a grownup. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/162 "2010-07-22T21:10:33Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > $5 says the OP watched the security cam footage, realized he was wrong, and is too childish to come back and admit it like a grownup. If he hadn’t watched it beforehand, once the camera was returned, there was no reason for the company to release the surveillance footage. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/163 "2010-07-22T21:25:59Z")
In that case, he would still have no basis for assuming anything about what was on it. I agree it seems strange that the OP has not returned to clarify whether this person was specifically seen on tape stealing the camera. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/164 "2010-07-22T21:29:22Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > If he hadn’t watched it beforehand, once the camera was returned, there was no reason for the company to release the surveillance footage. That’s like saying if I hold up a bank, then come back an hour later and hand all the money back, saying, “Just kidding!” they can’t prosecute me. I’d say they should \*absolutely \*have looked at that footage. Because they need to know if (a) the camera just came loose on its own, in which case they need to find some way to attach it better so it doesn’t get lost permanently next time; (b) some employee or vendor in the building stashed the camera there to retrieve later, in which case they can discipline the person, up to or including firing them; or (c) some student in the class stashed it there, or Mr. Pothead pretended to find it there, in which case they can ban that person from ever taking classes there again. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/165 "2010-07-23T08:12:53Z")
Continuing the hijack - while waiting for **Cartooniverse** to come and clear things up - and adding to **Ioniser’s** post, I know a Sunday League football team that consists entirely of stoners and manages to be competitive. I know a guy who spent 6 years getting a Bsc in Infectious Diseases, or some such thing, while smoking pot on a habitual basis. IOW, lay off us… I mean, them potheads. They are far less harmful to society than pissheads. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/166 "2010-07-25T04:31:44Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > Continuing the hijack - while waiting for **Cartooniverse** to come and clear things up - and adding to **Ioniser’s** post, I know a Sunday League football team that consists entirely of stoners and manages to be competitive. I know a guy who spent 6 years getting a Bsc in Infectious Diseases, or some such thing, while smoking pot on a habitual basis. > > IOW, lay off us… I mean, them potheads. They are far less harmful to society than pissheads. Hmmm… an all-stoner Sunday football team? Could that be a certain pro team from Green Bay that used to have a guy named Brent? (or whatever his name was-- we’ve forgotten all about him by now) (To be honest-- I’m really just bumping this to get _'Toon_’s attention) ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/167 "2010-07-25T11:00:41Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > That’s like saying if I hold up a bank, then come back an hour later and hand all the money back, saying, “Just kidding!” they can’t prosecute me. No, it’s more like putting a pack of ribeyes in my purse at the grocery store, only to remove them before I check out. You can draw conclusions about my motives, but you can’t arrest me because I ultimately never committed a crime. That’s why guards don’t detain people for shoplifting until they’ve reached the parking lot. On the other hand, demanding cash from a bank teller is, indeed, a crime, even if you were kidding, even if you don’t mention a weapon, even if you don’t HAVE a weapon, and even if you leave before getting the cash, because our fine legislators have deemed it to be a crime. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/168 "2010-07-25T16:05:18Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > > > That’s like saying if I hold up a bank, then come back an hour later and hand all the money back, saying, “Just kidding!” they can’t prosecute me. > > No, it’s more like putting a pack of ribeyes in my purse at the grocery store, only to remove them before I check out. You can draw conclusions about my motives, but you can’t arrest me because I ultimately never committed a crime. That’s why guards don’t detain people for shoplifting until they’ve reached the parking lot. In many jurisdictions, concealing the merchandise is a crime and you would be prosecuted if caught. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/169 "2010-07-25T16:41:32Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Want to see my transcripts? Yes, I want to see your transcripts. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/170 "2010-07-25T16:50:31Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I haven’t smoked pot in years, but if someone wants to claim that marijuana impares cognition and motor skills, that’s the person who needs to bring the cite, not me. Not that |I really care that much about this particular side argument, (I only looked it up because I wanted to know myself) a quick google search did find [this.](http://www.glenbeigh.com/Resources/DrugQuickFacts/Marijuana/tabid/99/Default.aspx) Not super detailed, but at first glance, pot does affect motor skills. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/171 "2010-07-26T05:16:02Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > …but at first glance, pot does affect motor skills. Wait, are you saying that, while we’re all waiting for _Cartooniverse_ to come back and post – and clear things up for us all, he’s suckin’ on a big ol’ dooooobie… … and is too baked to type? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/172 "2010-07-26T10:40:29Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > I haven’t smoked pot in years, but if someone wants to claim that marijuana impares cognition and motor skills, that’s the person who needs to bring the cite, not me. > > Not that |I really care that much about this particular side argument, (I only looked it up because I wanted to know myself) a quick google search did find [this.](http://www.glenbeigh.com/Resources/DrugQuickFacts/Marijuana/tabid/99/Default.aspx) > > Not super detailed, but at first glance, pot does affect motor skills. What these people are missing out, is that a regular user of cannabis doesn’t get an extreme high unless the substance is really potent. And if it was that potent, you wouldn’t even want to drive. I’m gonna claim that to the average habitual pot smoker, smoking 5 joints and going for a drive, will be less of a hazard than drinking 5 pints of cider, for example. Tell me how you are going to prove differently? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/173 "2010-07-26T14:25:22Z")
That’s not how it works, my bud-smoking friend. You make the claim; you provide the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/174 "2010-07-26T14:47:48Z")
I AM the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/175 "2010-07-26T14:51:18Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I AM the evidence. Really? This is what you’re going with now? That’s cute. No, you’re not the evidence. You are an anecdote. That is not the same as evidence. You’ve been hanging around here for long enough that I’m pretty sure you know the difference. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/176 "2010-07-26T14:58:20Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I AM the evidence. Is this like one of those TV court room scenes where the defendant, representing himself, proves he didnt murder this dude by proving conclusively that he was in fact murdering some other dude at the time? ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/177 "2010-07-26T16:19:37Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > I AM the evidence. > > Really? This is what you’re going with now? That’s cute. > > No, you’re not the evidence. You are an anecdote. That is not the same as evidence. You’ve been hanging around here for long enough that I’m pretty sure you know the difference. Haven’t you figured out by now that **DtC** is not required to post cites for anything because his experiences and opinions are THE TRUTH, and that us mere mortals are not permitted to question his proclamations of What is Right and Moral and Just? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/178 "2010-07-26T16:24:15Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > That’s not how it works, my bud-smoking friend. You make the claim; you provide the evidence. Can I use your car? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/179 "2010-07-26T16:29:02Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I AM the evidence. My pot is my cite? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223/180 "2010-07-26T16:29:10Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I AM the evidence. This is even better than “My post is my cite.” I think we’ve reached a new level here, people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-steal-a-camera-during-my-workshop-fuck-you-you-piece-of-messed-up-shit/547223.md?page=10)