# You stupid fucking assholes \ **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 24, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206 "2016-06-24T04:17:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/61 "2016-06-24T19:51:26Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The Right is by nature always overwhelmingly composed of bigots; Well duh! We all know that. Just like we all know that the Left is by nature always overwhelmingly composed of child molesters. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/62 "2016-06-24T21:02:06Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > England also doesn’t want to have their hands tied in diplomatic limbo whenever they want to take quick action against hostile forces. Adjust your drool cup Corky, you’re leaking. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/63 "2016-06-24T21:08:49Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > The US by comparison has only endured one civil war. And yet…it’s still lingers with the stench that drives our politics _even_ today. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/64 "2016-06-25T14:56:21Z")
And now I see a petition to do the vote over. Ha! Good luck with that. I understand any petition that gets a certain number of signatures is required by law to be debated in parliament, and this petition has already garnered five times the needed signatures. Still, good luck with that! ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/65 "2016-06-25T15:23:21Z")
I’m puzzled as to why Brixet has had such a negative effect on the U.S. stock markets – if the dollar is now worth more than the pound as of this week, wouldn’t that actually make a lot of stocks stronger? Please educate me . . . ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/66 "2016-06-25T16:06:48Z")
> [@Jennshark](#): > > I’m puzzled as to why Brixet has had such a negative effect on the U.S. stock markets – if the dollar is now worth more than the pound as of this week, wouldn’t that actually make a lot of stocks stronger? > > Please educate me . . . Oh, that’s largely because financial markets (and specifically, the people who deal in finance) don’t like uncertainty - whether or not it’s even remotely within the realm of logic, they tend to panic over the unexpected. Realistically, there’s no reason this should cause any damage to the global economy. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/67 "2016-06-25T16:51:10Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > whether or not it’s even remotely within the realm of logic, they tend to panic over the unexpected. Realistically, there’s no reason this should cause any damage to the global economy. I wouldn’t quite say that. Firstly there are hypothetical extreme scenarios that could fall out of this and would affect the US significantly. Even if such scenarios have only a 1% chance of happening, well, it’s more than the probability before this vote. Some readjustment “ripple” makes sense. But even excluding fire and brimstone, the world economies are linked such that a European recession would significantly affect US growth, and may indeed cause a recession there in turn. So if it makes sense for the Euro outlook to be jittery right now, the same applies to US markets, just to a lesser degree. ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/68 "2016-06-25T17:09:25Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Oh, that’s largely because financial markets (and specifically, the people who deal in finance) don’t like uncertainty - whether or not it’s even remotely within the realm of logic, they tend to panic over the unexpected. Realistically, there’s no reason this should cause any damage to the global economy. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/69 "2016-06-25T17:20:07Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > England also doesn’t want to have their hands tied in diplomatic limbo whenever they want to take quick action against hostile forces. They’re going to leave NATO too?:dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/70 "2016-06-25T18:02:00Z")
i’m not saying a bad word about the British vote. I’m hoping the world will appreciate that and show me the same courtesy if that comb-over with a bottom growth wins in November. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/71 "2016-06-25T18:03:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Have you actually read any of your own posts? If we made Trolls do that, we’d lose half of the AM Radio Brain Trust we seem to have gained over the past year. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/72 "2016-06-25T18:23:12Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > And now I see a petition to do the vote over. Ha! Good luck with that. > > I understand any petition that gets a certain number of signatures is required by law to be debated in parliament, and this petition has already garnered five times the needed signatures. Still, good luck with that! There is evidence that so many people were so poorly-informed about a vote on so momentous an issue, that a do-over might be justified: > [@](#): > > **After Brexit Vote, Britain Asks Google: ‘What Is The EU?’** > June 24, 2016·12:49 PM ET … But if you judge a country’s interests only by prevalent Google searches, it was after the polls closed when British voters started to think seriously about the implications of their choice. > … According to data from Google Trends, the searches for “what is the eu” and “what is brexit” started climbing across Britain late into the night. The polls closed at 10 p.m. local time. [After Brexit Vote, Britain Googles 'What Is The EU?' : All Tech Considered : NPR](http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/06/24/480949383/britains-google-searches-for-what-is-the-eu-spike-after-brexit-vote) Voter participation is another concern, as only about 72% of qualified voters took part in the election. (Granted, that’s a higher turnout than in some recent UK elections.) ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Lucky\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_Mike)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/73 "2016-06-25T18:43:19Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Your own (reactionary) opinion is exactly the reason why the polls do not represent reality in the last two major elections. If a pro-exit voter were in a conversation with you then I’d expect them not offer a definite opinion, avoid the subject or flat-out lie. > > Your seem to have an absolute certainty in the rightness of your position and an inability to consider that sober-minded, careful consideration from non-reactionary voters might lead to a “leave” vote. > > My wife and I voted for opposite camps. I remember us both considering many pros and cons for leaving and staying but at no point did it stray into reactionary politics and I’m sure we weren’t alone in that. You certainly are in no way obligated to entertain my request, but as a person who is pretty ignorant of this situation, I would appreciate understanding the rational points you and your wife had. I have listened to NPR and read many things online in the last 7 days, but that is why i am largely ignorant. I am not British, nor European and I have not been studying this issue closely until the last 7 days. I would never presume to take a strong position. But, now that it is a world issue, I am sincerely interested in what two rational individuals asserted about the issue. Especially since they are a married and have to navigate that line of not resorting to attacks like the rest of us, lest they lose that position of being married 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Lucky\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_Mike)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/74 "2016-06-25T18:46:18Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > There is evidence that so many people were so poorly-informed about a vote on so momentous an issue, that a do-over might be justified: > > [After Brexit Vote, Britain Googles 'What Is The EU?' : All Tech Considered : NPR](http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/06/24/480949383/britains-google-searches-for-what-is-the-eu-spike-after-brexit-vote) > > Voter participation is another concern, as only about 72% of qualified voters took part in the election. (Granted, that’s a higher turnout than in some recent UK elections.) Ahh, democracy… Two wolves and a lamb deciding what to eat. Or, better and more modern, two carpenters, two plumbers, two masons and one dentist deciding which laws we should pass to regulate dentistry. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/75 "2016-06-25T19:42:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > There is evidence that so many people were so poorly-informed about a vote on so momentous an issue, that a do-over might be justified: > > [After Brexit Vote, Britain Googles 'What Is The EU?' : All Tech Considered : NPR](http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/06/24/480949383/britains-google-searches-for-what-is-the-eu-spike-after-brexit-vote) > > Voter participation is another concern, as only about 72% of qualified voters took part in the election. (Granted, that’s a higher turnout than in some recent UK elections.) Too lazy to vote? Too bad then. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/76 "2016-06-25T19:49:10Z")
> [@Tithonus](#): > > If this referendum proves anything at all, it’s that calling people xenophobes, reactionaries, and bigots _doesn’t fucking work!_ Someone on Facebook said it best; something to the effect that slamming one’s opponents as bigoted, homophobic, sexist or xenophobic is a terrible way of persuading them to vote for your side. If anything, it simply hardens the spite factor. I cannot recall a personal anecdote of anyone who was tarred and feathered as a bigot, therefore changing his/her views due to being tarred and feathered. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/77 "2016-06-25T20:00:21Z")
Not strictly related to the Brexit, but I’ve noticed a tendency of the political left wing: Whenever an election goes the liberals’ way, the liberals say: \* “Today, Britain (or the USA, or Canada, etc.) did the right thing. Tolerance, diversity and open-mindedness prevailed over bigotry and narrow-mindedess. Good defeated evil today. Today we as a society took a big step forward.”\* But when the _ **very same** _ electorate give the political left an outcome they don’t like, the left says: _“The electorate isn’t educated, intelligent or informed enough. They don’t get it. They’re small-minded. They don’t understand the issues. They fall for fear-mongering, xenophobia, prejudice. The electorate is sheeple, listening to the Daily Mail/Fox News/right-wing Internet/TV/etc. Today we as a society took a big step backwards.”_ ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/78 "2016-06-25T20:06:10Z")
And your point? We get the same from conservatives, in a pure “they do it too” way. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/79 "2016-06-25T20:17:03Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > They’re going to leave NATO too?:dubious: No reason to stay in the coffin with it. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/80 "2016-06-25T20:53:38Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Too lazy to vote? Too bad then. There’s a reason that nations such as Australia make voting mandatory: people, worldwide, tend not to want to be bothered with voting–or if they do vote, don’t want to be bothered with informing themselves about the choices. It may be deplorable, but it seems to be a fact of human nature. The question is, do we indulge ourselves in tut-tutting about the less-informed and less-involved? Or do we acknowledge that getting people _more_-involved can take some effort? The idea here (with those advocating a do-over Brexit vote) is that this is too important an issue to be dismissed with righteous finger-wagging about laziness. Now that many in the UK finally realize what’s at stake, they have an incentive to make a more informed decision. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206.md?page=5)