# You stupid fucking assholes \ **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 24, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206 "2016-06-24T04:17:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/141 "2016-06-27T03:33:25Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Since you ask, they could be described as right-wing morons but let’s just deal with you specifically. A right-wing moron and gun nut extraordinaire who trolls the SDMB with idiotic right-wing bloviations apparently memorized from the bumper stickers of rural Texas pickups, [declares the Washington Post a “liberal rag”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19435336&postcount=114), somehow manages to [combine homophobia with anti-abortionism in one asinine topic](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=759141), and appears to be [an all-around pigbrained fuckwit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17810707&postcount=203). I can clarify further if you like but that’s the general idea. I think I get it. You’re on the side of the angels, and anybody who disagrees with you must be evil. Does that sum it up? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/142 "2016-06-27T03:35:35Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > You don’t answer question nor are you able to make basic distinctions. Considering that, the fact we disagree is reassuring. Read it again you twit, I did answer, I consider Trump to be a Neo Fascist. And it is clear that you are now avoiding dealing with that ADL reported about Trump. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/143 "2016-06-27T03:37:44Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > I think I get it. You’re on the side of the angels, and anybody who disagrees with you must be evil. Does that sum it up? Oh, well, I see that **wolfpup** is putting everyone up to speed on the oodles of crank magnetism that you have. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/144 "2016-06-27T03:39:14Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Read it again you twit, I did answer, I consider Trump to be a Neo Fascist. I didn’t ask if he was a neofascist, I asked if you were comparing him to Hitler. See what I mean about missing distinctions. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > And it is clear that you are now avoiding dealing with that ADL reported about Trump. How am I to “deal with it”? The ADL doesn’t like him. Great. Doesn’t make him Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/145 "2016-06-27T03:40:41Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Oh, well, I see that **wolfpup** is putting everyone up to speed on the oodles of crank magnetism that you have. Wolfpup is an angry leftist. Of course he doesn’t like me. I also find that reassuring. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/146 "2016-06-27T03:44:40Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > I didn’t ask if he was a neofascist, I asked if you were comparing him to Hitler. See what I mean about missing distinctions. Nah, you are only helping show all that you do not know context if it did bite your but. A neo fascist is not a guy like Hitler. But that logical effort is clearly beyond you. > [@Waymore](#): > > How am I to “deal with it”? The ADL doesn’t like him. Great. Doesn’t make him Hitler. As pointed before, just a follower of his ideas. And it is not only leftists that arrived to that conclusion, but several conservatives as well. > **[Why some conservatives say Trump talk is fascist | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/politics/donald-trump-fascism/)** > > Conservative warnings about Donald Trump have grown increasingly somber. At first he was just an entertainer; then he became a worrisome distraction, and soon, there was fear that he would permanently scar the reputation of the Republican Party. > [@](#): > > Conservative warnings about Donald Trump have grown increasingly somber. At first he was just an entertainer; then he became a worrisome distraction, and soon, there was fear that he would permanently scar the reputation of the Republican Party. > But it was after Trump started calling for stronger surveillance of Muslim-Americans in the aftermath of the Paris terrorist attacks that a handful of conservatives ventured to call Trump’s rhetoric something much more dangerous: fascism. > > Since launching his campaign this summer, the billionaire real estate magnate has regularly deployed inflammatory rhetoric about immigrants – particularly regarding Latinos – and repeatedly raised the alarm about foreigners entering the country. That has escalated following the series of shooting rampages and explosions in Paris this month allegedly perpetrated by ISIS and amid a national debate over accepting Syrian refugees. > > Most striking has been Trump’s aim at Muslims in the United States. He’s been widely denounced for claiming that people in New Jersey — a state with “large Arab populations,” he said — cheered after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. That, coupled with his seeming endorsement of a national registry to track Muslims in the country, has sparked a new level of condemnation from conservatives already on edge about Trump’s endurance. > > “Trump is a fascist. And that’s not a term I use loosely or often. But he’s earned it,” tweeted Max Boot, a conservative fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations who is advising Marco Rubio. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/147 "2016-06-27T16:33:34Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > arguments. **[doper pendant]** Arguments. **[/doper pendant]** Proper grammar dictates that the beginning word of a sentence should be capitalized. Don’t mind me just fightin’ a little ignorance here. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/148 "2016-06-27T18:28:34Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > **[doper pendant]** Arguments. **[/doper pendant]** > > Proper grammar dictates that the beginning word of a sentence should be capitalized. > > Don’t mind me just fightin’ a little ignorance here. Ooh, what’s that internet law that talks about making a grammatical error whenever you correct someone else’s grammatical error? I think you mean _pedant_. Unless you’re posting from a gallows. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/149 "2016-06-27T18:46:04Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Ooh, what’s that internet law that talks about making a grammatical error whenever you correct someone else’s grammatical error? > I think you mean _pedant_. Unless you’re posting from a gallows. That could be a case of following the lead of The Donald, who routinely says “pundint” when he means “pundit” (and in all likelihood, says “pendant” when he means “pedant,” too). > (Admittedly using “pundint” isn’t limited to Trump; I swear I’ve heard Bernie Sanders say it, too. But really. MUST we lose “pundit” the way we lost “nuclear”…???) ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/150 "2016-06-27T19:10:54Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Ooh, what’s that internet law that talks about making a grammatical error whenever you correct someone else’s grammatical error? Gaudere’s Law. (which, of course, I probably misspelled. :)) ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/151 "2016-06-27T19:12:19Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Nah, you are only helping show all that you do not know context if it did bite your but. > > A neo fascist is not a guy like Hitler. But that logical effort is clearly beyond you. > As pointed before, just a follower of his ideas. > > And it is not only leftists that arrived to that conclusion, but several conservatives as well. > > [http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/politics/donald-trump-fascism/](http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/politics/donald-trump-fascism/) He’s asking you a legitimate question which you haven’t answered clearly at all. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/152 "2016-06-27T19:14:03Z")
This Brexit thing brings to mind the famous words of an ex-PM: > [@Margaret Thatcher](#): > > There\* is\* no society. Anyway, I can only speculate about the size of the tax cut for the wealthy that will be required to smooth this one out. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/153 "2016-06-28T14:27:35Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > This Brexit thing brings to mind the famous words of an ex-PM… “I think we’ve been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it’s the government’s job to cope with it. ‘I have a problem, I’ll get a grant.’ ‘I’m homeless, the government must house me.’ They’re casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It’s our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There’s no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation.” A fuller version for context. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/154 "2016-06-28T15:15:40Z")
Sorry to interrupt SDMB Trump Discussion #8973, but as the OP, please allow me to offer some (admittedly tardy) replies: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > You think _these_ voters were short-sighted, reactionary dickheads? I can’t wait to read what you write in November after Mr. Trump wins the election. I’m actually looking forward to the carnival-like atmosphere of a Trump presidency. It will good for lots of LOL’s. I don’t live in your crappy country anymore, so for me it’s all entertainment. > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Your own (reactionary) opinion is exactly the reason why the polls do not represent reality in the last two major elections. If a pro-exit voter were in a conversation with you then I’d expect them not offer a definite opinion, avoid the subject or flat-out lie. > > Your seem to have an absolute certainty in the rightness of your position and an inability to consider that sober-minded, careful consideration from non-reactionary voters might lead to a “leave” vote. > > My wife and I voted for opposite camps. I remember us both considering many pros and cons for leaving and staying but at no point did it stray into reactionary politics and I’m sure we weren’t alone in that. Oh, for fuck’s sake, pull the stick out of your ass and exhale slowly. Yes, you and your better half may have been the paragon of calm, rational analysis regarding your votes, but do you really think that you are representative of the average ‘Leave’ voter? Really? :dubious: > [@Tithonus](#): > > If this referendum proves anything at all, it’s that calling people xenophobes, reactionaries, and bigots _doesn’t fucking work!_ You’re right - the ‘Remain’ camp should have refrained from playing the R-card. Would’ve been better to just call the opposition out on their general idiocy and mendacity. > [@mascaroni](#): > > From County Cork, eh? Didn’t Ireland leave The UK in 1921? Does that make the Irish short-sighted, reactionary dickheads? If not, why not? what’s the difference? > > Same goes for Scots who want to leave the Union. Why is the UK leaving the EU such a terrible decision, but Scotland leaving the UK is Independence? Oh shit - you’re right. I forgot that earlier referendum in which the Irish electorate voluntarily acceded their sovereignty to their betters from Perfidious Albion. Which one was that again, I get my dates mixed up - 1171? 1594? 1641? 1798? My bad. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/155 "2016-06-28T15:58:20Z")
Cheer up, Brits! You’ve been offered [a fantastic opportunity](http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/daily-cartoon/monday-june-27th-britain-fifty-first-state). And you won’t have to go to the back of the queue. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/156 "2016-06-28T16:21:41Z")
> [@Fuji](#): > > Oh shit - you’re right. I forgot that earlier referendum in which the Irish electorate voluntarily acceded their sovereignty to their betters from Perfidious Albion. Which one was that again, I get my dates mixed up - 1171? 1594? 1641? 1798? My bad. Ted Heath didn’t call a referendum when we joined The Common Market, let alone a European superstate. So, we took Ireland by force. That’s just the way they went about things those days. The people on the island of Great Britain didn’t have a referendum when the Romans, Saxons, Danes or Normans decided to turn up. We don’t still bang on about it, though. I don’t whinge about the way Irish people vote for anything - that’s for them to decide. Same with the British; i.e. It’s none of your business. If it affects Ireland or the rest of Europe, or even the rest of the world, there’s obviously been too much reliance on Britain. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/157 "2016-06-28T17:32:43Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Unless you’re posting from a gallows. Which, to be fair, he should. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/158 "2016-06-28T22:35:31Z")
> [@mascaroni](#): > > Ted Heath didn’t call a referendum when we joined The Common Market, let alone a European superstate. On the contrary, Heath played a leading role in the 1975 referendum campaign in which Britain voted to remain part of the European Economic Community (Common Market). [Cite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Heath#Later_career_.281975.E2.80.932001.29). The vote in 1975 was 67.2% in favor of remaining in the EEC. [Archive: how the Guardian reported the 1975 EEC referendum](http://www.theguardian.com/politics/from-the-archive-blog/2015/jun/05/referendum-eec-europe-1975) > [@mascaroni](#): > > …I don’t whinge about the way Irish people vote for anything - that’s for them to decide. Same with the British; i.e. It’s none of your business. If it affects Ireland or the rest of Europe, or even the rest of the world, there’s obviously been too much reliance on Britain. :rolleyes: It may indeed be none of our business, but the whole world is interconnected, whether you like or not, and these interconnections go both ways. That said, if Britain is determined to go it alone in the future, that can be certainly be arranged. This will actually save quite a bit of time, as no new trade agreements or the like will need to be negotiated. Britain is of course free to do whatever it likes, including shooting itself in its collective foot. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/159 "2016-06-28T22:45:44Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Which, to be fair, he should. [Moderating] Don’t wish death on other posters. No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206/160 "2016-06-29T08:05:49Z")
It will be 20-30 years before a rational analysis of this vote can be done. For now: Either UK takes its leave quickly or the EU may make a point of kicking it out. Nay “re-vote” will be seen as cynical manipulation by the losing side. About the only way a re-vote would have cover would be if EVERY public figure - government and private - who urged “Leave” were to publicly and loudly say “I fucked up”. We really need to stay - please vote “Stay” this time. I know there would be no way in Hell that such a thing would occur in the US. I doubt that the Brits are all that different. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-stupid-fucking-assholes-brexit/758206.md?page=9)