# You theiving cunt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043 "2005-04-25T16:40:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/181 "2005-04-27T23:51:44Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > He shouldn’t have, and that’s exactly when it would have been appropriate to intervene on his behalf. Which is _exactly_ what **Maureen** did. Good for her! ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/182 "2005-04-27T23:55:10Z")
I only ever feel the urge to post something when I disagree strongly with something or hold a unique view, but after three pages of "Well done’s"s I should of realised the problem was my own misunderstanding. Back to lurking… ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/183 "2005-04-28T00:06:42Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > So while I can understand suspending her or firing her and I can understand not liking her or her actions, and I can understand anyone who sees her as an asshole, I can’t quite get my mind around why people expect her to be able to control the symptoms of her illness by having a better attitude when the organ in the body which controls attitude adjustment is what is 'broken." I’m not sure anyone was saying that. The impression I got was that TC does not **have** a mental illness, but someone was concerned that she might **claim** one in order to absolve herself from responsibility. ---
**Author:** ![Dan\_Norder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@Dan\_Norder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dan_Norder)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/184 "2005-04-28T02:15:58Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I just expressed an opinion about how I think the situation could have been handled better by Maureen. Unfortunately your opinion lacked real world insight in how to deal with selfish nutjobs like Joan. Maureen was 100% right to take the boombox away from the crazy bitch who misappropriated it and wsa going to try to manipulate someone else for no justification and then likely end up throwing a fit to a juvenile. Bosses are supposed to step in and take charge of potentially troublesome conflicts like this. This wsa 100% the best way to handle it, from my experience, and your hands off approach just would have made things much worse. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/185 "2005-04-28T02:16:38Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I didn’t realise that was something Joan actually said and that your coworker relayed to you. I shouldn’t be too surprised about it after reading about the other meltdowns. I’m sorry I misinterpreted your OP. That makes a lot more sense. No harm no foul. 🙂 Don’t stop posting on account of this little trifle of a thread, please. **Rilch** , she doesn’t actually have a “mental illness.” I am under the impression her meds are hormone replacements for menopause. Her mood swings used to be epic. Now they’re merely distracting and annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/186 "2005-04-28T02:55:04Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > No harm no foul. 🙂 Don’t stop posting on account of this little trifle of a thread, please. I won’t. 🙂 But I promise I will be more attentive next time. I feel better knowing you don’t hold this against me. Here’s hoping that future meltdowns only produce an amusing story and nothing more. She drove her car into a pole… :snicker: ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/187 "2005-04-28T03:27:18Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > **Rilch** , she doesn’t actually have a “mental illness.” I am under the impression her meds are hormone replacements for menopause. Her mood swings used to be epic. Now they’re merely distracting and annoying. Well, **Zoe** , there you go. No one’s picking on a mentally disabled person. (In this scenario.) ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/188 "2005-04-28T03:28:07Z")
> [@Dan Norder](#): > > Unfortunately your opinion lacked real world insight in how to deal with selfish nutjobs like Joan. Maureen was 100% right to take the boombox away from the crazy bitch who misappropriated it and wsa going to try to manipulate someone else for no justification and then likely end up throwing a fit to a juvenile. Bosses are supposed to step in and take charge of potentially troublesome conflicts like this. This wsa 100% the best way to handle it, from my experience, and your hands off approach just would have made things much worse. Possibly. I admit that I have no real world experience on the issue. For the sake of completeness here’s my interpretation of the situation and how I invision dealing with it (ATTN: NOT HOW ACTUAL EVENTS TRANSPIRED!): First, even though it was a workplace event, it was a social gathering (a gift raffle), thus not work-related. So from an ethical viewpoint authority does not play a role in it. Worst case scenario, abridged (might need tweaking some details): Selfish Nutjob (SN) hoards the boombox all to herself but keeps quiet. Says she’s keeping it to give to Innocent Teenager (IT) but intends to coerce him into swapping gifts. Kind Hearted Boss (Maureen) has a sneaking suspicion. Before SN has the chance, Maureen talks to IT and says: “Look, SN has your boombox. Says she’s keeping it for you but knowing her it’s likely the she will try to pressure you or guilt trip you into exchanging the gift certificate she got for your boombox. Don’t let her do this. You have every right to that boombox. You won it, it’s yours. Just tell her that you’re not interested and that you’re anxious to try the new boombox. Even if you have one already, you should take the new one. Offer no justifications to SN. Tell her she can swap the $20 for the boombox with the broken antenna if you’re so inclined. That’s up to you. If she gives you any grief don’t argue with her, come back to me”. IT goes to see SN. IT: Hey SN, I saw your note. What was it that you wanted to talk about? SN: You won this boombox but since you don’t really need it, you can have my $20 gift certificate instead. blah blah blah. IT: No thanks, I think I’ll just take the boombox, looks awesome! SN: WHAT? No way, because BLAH BLAH BLAH! IT: Look SN, I’m really not interested in the gift certificate. it was nice of you to keep the boombox for me, now I’ll just take it if you don’t mind. SN: _starts losing it_ IT: OK, let me know when I can have my prize. It goes back to Maureen, explains what happened. Maureen goes to see SN. Maureen: I saw that IT came in to see you and I went there to ask if he liked his gift but he said you still had it. What’s up with that? SN: _offers crazy rationalization for nutty behaviour_ Maureen: _rips into SN, takes boombox to IT_ or _rips into SN, goes to see uber-boss_ _Fade from IT filing paperwork listening to Metallica on his new boombox_ The End. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/189 "2005-04-28T04:02:54Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > :rolleyes: Way to jump to conlcusions there. I was pointing out to **Pedro** that his line of argument is a dead end. What “jump”? You told the guy to go back to lurking, implying that he shouldn’t participate further in the discussion. Don’t blame me for drawing the most logical conclusion from your words. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/190 "2005-04-28T05:09:29Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > You told the guy to go back to lurking, implying that he shouldn’t participate further in the discussion. Don’t blame me for drawing the most logical conclusion from your words. “Most logical conclusion” my ass. I was implying that he shouldn’t participate further solely because his line of argument was a dead end. In case you haven’t noticed, he took my comments in stride. You, however, accused me of thinking he was spouting bullshit and that he shouldn’t participate in the conversation _at all_. Uri Geller, you ain’t. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/191 "2005-04-28T05:19:44Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Uri Geller, you ain’t. That’s certainly true. He was bending spoons. I, on the other hand, am involved in an exchange with someone who’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer. ---
**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/192 "2005-04-28T12:51:56Z")
And here we have a perfect illustration of the difference between intentions and action. In the situation described in the OP, intentions and actions matched. Taking **Lute Skywatcher** at his word, his intentions and actions didn’t. That said, “do yourself a favor and go back to lurking” is a rotten thing to say. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/193 "2005-04-28T13:47:14Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > That’s certainly true. He was bending spoons. He also claims to be a mind reader. **mhendo** , we already know that you’re a clueless git; there’s no need to continuosly prove it. > [@Exgineer](#): > > That said, “do yourself a favor and go back to lurking” is a rotten thing to say. I didn’t intend it that way. **mhendo** assumed the worst from the start, _after_ **Pedro** had decided it was no big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/194 "2005-04-28T13:58:35Z")
…and the Pit works its magic once again, building a fight where none is necessary! Guys, 'twas a simple misunderstanding. You’ve just failed your will-saves against the Pit’s magic. No need to scuffle. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Misery\_Loves\_Co](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misery_Loves_Co)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/195 "2005-04-28T14:27:35Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Guys, 'twas a simple misunderstanding. You’ve just failed your will-saves against the Pit’s magic. No need to scuffle. Yeah? What’s that, some kind of slam against D&D players? Well fuck you man, fuck you! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jaade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@Jaade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaade)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/196 "2005-04-28T14:33:41Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Possibly. I admit that I have no real world experience on the issue. For the sake of completeness here’s my interpretation of the situation and how I invision dealing with it (ATTN: NOT HOW ACTUAL EVENTS TRANSPIRED!): > > First, even though it was a workplace event, it was a social gathering (a gift raffle), thus not work-related. So from an ethical viewpoint authority does not play a role in it. Small nitpick. It wasn’t a random gift-raffle. These were gifts the company bought for the employees, so it was very work-related. Other than that, your scenario may have worked. **Mo** just chose to handle it a different way. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/197 "2005-04-28T16:01:34Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > …and the Pit works its magic once again, building a fight where none is necessary! > > Guys, 'twas a simple misunderstanding. You’ve just failed your will-saves against the Pit’s magic. No need to scuffle. Don’t look at me, I’m in room 12. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/198 "2005-04-28T16:30:25Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > He also claims to be a mind reader. And i don’t, which is precisely why i read your words literally. Besides, with you as the object of study, being a mind-reader would take a better microscope than i have handy right now. > [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > I didn’t intend it that way. But you wrote it that way. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/199 "2005-04-28T16:39:31Z")
M: Did Too! LS: Did Not! M: Did Too-o! LS: Did No-ot! M: Did Too-o-o! LS: Did No-o-ot! M: Did Too-o-o-o! LS: Did No-o-o-ot! M: Did Too-o-o-o-o! LS: Did No-o-o-o-ot! I see a pattern emerging. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043/200 "2005-04-28T16:43:21Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > M: Did Too! > LS: Did Not! > > M: Did Too-o! > LS: Did No-ot! > > M: Did Too-o-o! > LS: Did No-o-ot! > > M: Did Too-o-o-o! > LS: Did No-o-o-ot! > > M: Did Too-o-o-o-o! > LS: Did No-o-o-o-ot! > > I see a pattern emerging. I know you are, but what am i? 🙂 (OK, OK, i’ll stop now. This really is a counterproductive hijack) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-theiving-cunt/301043.md?page=11)