# You think s/he's hot? Are we looking at the same person? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 14, 2005, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639 "2005-09-14T18:15:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Psycho\_Pirate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Psycho\_Pirate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psycho_Pirate)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/81 "2005-09-15T14:18:27Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > Sarah Michelle Gellar. I mean, come on. I pass better looking women in the street several times a day. She’s nothing special. Nowadays, I have to agree with you. But back in the early Buffy days, before she turned into a walking skeleton, I’d have to disagree. She used to have cheeks. Actual cheeks! ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/82 "2005-09-15T14:24:31Z")
> [@Spiff](#): > > [This guy](http://www.pastormatt.com/) thinks his wife is hot… Are you sure? He does have the “beauty” in quotes. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/83 "2005-09-15T14:27:28Z")
Fist and foremost, Angelina Jolie. Some men seem to swoon at the mere mention of her name, but she does absolutely nothing for me. Seconding Pamela Anderson, Halle Berry, Drew Barrymore, Jennifer Garner. New name for the thread (and completing the _Charlie’s Angels_ trifecta), Lucy Liu. Concerning the strange case of Gwyneth Paltrow; she can be an absolute stunner in movies (cf. _Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow_) but can’t seem to get it together in real life. Maybe it’s the historical looks in films, maybe it’s because they do something with her just-came-in-out-of-the-rain hair, maybe she just shouldn’t be allowed to pick out her own clothes. ---
**Author:** ![d1a1s1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@d1a1s1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d1a1s1)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/84 "2005-09-15T14:29:59Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > Are you sure? He does have the “beauty” in quotes. Haha…you just made an already hilarious webpage even funnier. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/85 "2005-09-15T14:35:40Z")
> [@Green Bean](#): > > I’ve never seen her show, but I saw her once on some awards show with her hair pulled back, and I was like “holy shmoly! Look at those ears!” Every since then, whenever I’ve seen her, all I’ve seen is the ears. Even if her hair is down, I know the ears are in there, lurking, waiting, wanting to pop out. I feel the same way about [Shannen Doherty](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/3313/Events/3313/ShannenDoh_Grant_5415649_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Doherty,%20Shannen). I used to think she was hot, but then I noticed that one of her eyes is like an inch higher than the other one. Now that’s all I can see. Great body and all, but her face looks like a Picasso painting. As for Sarah Jessica Parker, I thought she was really cute in [L.A. Story](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102250/). That was 15 years ago, though. She’s still got a killer body, and I think she can look really pretty, but I see why others might not find her attractive. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/86 "2005-09-15T14:52:29Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > Are you sure? He does have the “beauty” in quotes. I noticed that, also. I was just too nice to point that out. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/87 "2005-09-15T15:05:36Z")
> [@Spiff](#): > > [This guy](http://www.pastormatt.com/) thinks his wife is hot. > > I do not. Clearly he’s talking about spiritual bea.uty. But mocking the non-famous is too mean for me. And I’m pretty much pure evil, so I should think you’d want to be a better person than I. Now if you’ll excuse me I must returnto the torture chamber, as Aquaman is nearly ready to reak. Oh, and [Jilll Marie Jones](http://i.timeinc.net/essence/images/beauty_ART_girlfriends_jmj.jpg) from _Girlfriends_. Love the show, think she’s a gifted comic actress, think her three co-stars are ineffably gorgeous, and think she has a smoking body. But that face…ugh. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/88 "2005-09-15T15:07:45Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > Cameron Diaz has never looked more beautiful or sexy than in her very first movie role, _The Mask_, in 1994 or '95 (I forget which). She was an absolute stunner there, a bombshell. Ever since then, I don’t think she has ever looked as great, and not because of natural aging either. I like her because she’s tall and blonde and pretty but isn’t afraid to laugh or do goofy comedy or mock her image – and she’s a very decent actress too. But she’s not as hot as many people say, except for that one role. Wow. My lesbian ex-girlfriend – well, sadly, ONE of my lesbian ex-girlfriends–and I used to include Cameron on our cruel lists of fomerly hot women who really needed to eat a cheeseburger. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/89 "2005-09-15T15:10:11Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > The actress playing Paris Gellar is seriously evolving in hotness. I don’t quite agree. She’s not hot, [Liza Weil](http://www.efanguide.com/~lizaweil/pics_gg03.html) is definitely quite beautiful. And now I’m going to stop lest I hijack my own thread. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/90 "2005-09-15T15:34:46Z")
Just wondering if there’s any objective measure of hottitude out there … I mean, we all obviously have our faves and non-faves, but does anybody keep stats on who’s considered the hottest of the hot (or the nottest of the not hot)? I’m not taking about faked-up stuff like Maxim’s Hot 100 or People’s hot list of the week. I’m talking about someone taking actual objective surveys of people and finding out who’s considered hot and who’s … not. ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@Chance\_the\_Gardener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chance_the_Gardener)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/91 "2005-09-15T15:40:56Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > Liza Minnelli. I’m not sure I follow. Do you find Liza hot, or don’t you? Me, I’m of the pro-Liza camp (at least, I’m of the pro-1960s-and1970s-Liza.) Physically, anyway. And I love that voice. I own eleven of her albums. But she can get a bit sickeningly sweet sometimes, true enough. Before you ask: no, I’m straight. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/92 "2005-09-15T15:47:54Z")
> [@Chance the Gardener](#): > > I’m not sure I follow. Do you find Liza hot, or don’t you? Me, I’m of the pro-Liza camp (at least, I’m of the pro-1960s-and1970s-Liza.) Physically, anyway. And I love that voice. I own eleven of her albums. But she can get a bit sickeningly sweet sometimes, true enough. > > **Before you ask: no, I’m straight**. Are you sure? 😉 I kid, I Kid Liza does nothing for me singing but she was cute in the 60’s. Her mom was beautiful in the 40’s and I love her singing. “Somewhere over the Rainbow” and “Have yourself a merry little christmas” especially. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/93 "2005-09-15T16:00:20Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Just wondering if there’s any objective measure of hottitude out there … I mean, we all obviously have our faves and non-faves, but does anybody keep stats on who’s considered the hottest of the hot (or the nottest of the not hot)? I’m not taking about faked-up stuff like Maxim’s Hot 100 or People’s hot list of the week. I’m talking about someone taking actual objective surveys of people and finding out who’s considered hot and who’s … not. I doubt such a thing is even possible. Too much variation. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/94 "2005-09-15T16:01:35Z")
> [@Fabulous Creature](#): > > I doubt such a thing is even possible. Too much variation. No, what I’m thinking about is very possible. YOu can survey lots of people to see who they think is hot, even if you can’t develop objective standards of hottitude. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/95 "2005-09-15T16:05:47Z")
> [@Chance the Gardener](#): > > I’m not sure I follow. Do you find Liza hot, or don’t you? Me, I’m of the pro-Liza camp (at least, I’m of the pro-1960s-and1970s-Liza.) Physically, anyway. And I love that voice. I own eleven of her albums. But she can get a bit sickeningly sweet sometimes, true enough. > > Before you ask: no, I’m straight. I don’t find her hot (as I thought this thread was originally about saying who you don’t think is hot, despite popular opinions to the contrary). I was also aluding to a recent CS thread from a few days ago, where I was also challenged for not liking Liza. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/96 "2005-09-15T16:47:20Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > No, what I’m thinking about is very possible. YOu can survey lots of people to see who they think is hot, even if you can’t develop objective standards of hottitude. That’s what I mean. There are no objective standards of, ah, hottitude. Though an evolutionary psychologist might disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/97 "2005-09-15T16:50:02Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#): > > I don’t find her hot (as I thought this thread was originally about saying who you don’t think is hot, despite popular opinions to the contrary). I was also aluding to a recent CS thread from a few days ago, where I was also challenged for not liking Liza. I’m the OP, and I knew it would eventually run off the rails… But to run t back on…Charisma Carpenter ( URL = ttp://www. skins.be/ framepic.php?id=17778&size=1024 ). Oh, she’s got a smoking body, but I’ve never liked her face all that much, and when she went blond it was a cause for cursing. (That link should be work safe; it’s just a head shot.) * * * Well, it’s just a head-shot of Charisma, but the borders are … um… not exactly something I’d want my boss to see on my screen. I have therefore disabled the link. If you want to go to the site, just delete the spaces inserted after the .'s – CKDH ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/98 "2005-09-15T17:06:30Z")
> [@Fabulous Creature](#): > > I’m the OP, and I knew it would eventually run off the rails… > > But to run t back on…]Charisma Carpenter. Oh, she’s got a smoking body, but I’ve never liked her face all that much, and when she went blond it was a cause for cursing. > > (That link should be work safe; it’s just a head shot.) NOT WORK SAFE: Blocked Work Safe Alternate: [http://www.charisma-carpenter.com/pics/gallery6b.shtml](http://www.charisma-carpenter.com/pics/gallery6b.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Little\_Bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Bird)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/99 "2005-09-15T17:15:31Z")
> [@Robot Arm](#): > > Concerning the strange case of Gwyneth Paltrow; she can be an absolute stunner in movies (cf. _Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow_) but can’t seem to get it together in real life. Maybe it’s the historical looks in films, maybe it’s because they do something with her just-came-in-out-of-the-rain hair, maybe she just shouldn’t be allowed to pick out her own clothes. I have the same feelings regarding Johnny Depp. In movies: yummy. In real life: hobo. Also Adrian Brody and Guy Pierce. Adrian looks like his face melted and Guy looks like he’s got a muzzle, like a dog. ---
**Author:** ![billfritter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@billfritter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfritter)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639/100 "2005-09-15T18:56:46Z")
Uma Thurman has to be the ugliest “beauty” since Marlena Dietrich. A face you could sharpen a broadax on, it’s so hard and cold. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-think-s-hes-hot-are-we-looking-at-the-same-person/321639.md?page=6)