# You weird fanwanks.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-weird-fanwanks/790292>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 1, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-weird-fanwanks/790292 "2017-07-01T17:21:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-weird-fanwanks/790292/61 "2017-07-03T23:17:47Z")

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Originally Posted by Lemur866  
"My personal Star Trek fanwank, which I never tire of, is that due to Earth’s post-scarcity utopia 99.99% of all people are content to laze around watching holoporn.

Starfleet is regarded as a bunch of silly eccentrics who like to do dangerous stuff for no reason, like we regard people who climb Mt Everest."

Have you read Cory Doctorow’s “To Go Boldly”?

> **[Cyberpunk, Steampunk and Wizardry](https://books.google.com/books?id=Ol5lDQAAQBAJ&pg=PT195&lpg=PT195&dq=to%2Bgo%2Bboldly%2Bdoctorow&source=bl&ots=Z4hYlfTGU9&sig=SuV9JVqmV2GVyaEkiPmOiV8AVkY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0lrXPnu7UAhWKHT4KHSdJB8c4ChDoAQgjMAA#v=onepage&q=to%20go%20boldly%20doctorow&f=false)**
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> Where writing on science fiction is concerned, it is the most recent decades that most often get overlooked, so that "big picture" views of the period are a rarity. CYBERPUNK, STEAMPUNK AND WIZARDRY seeks to correct that, offering an...

A very Enterpriseish ship meets a very powerful alien who initially thinks that the Captain and crew are “role players”, like today’s Civil War reenactors. He then explodes many of the plot fallacies that pepper Star Trek. Kills a crew member and is surprised to learn that they don’t have _back-ups._

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-weird-fanwanks/790292/62 "2017-07-04T00:15:34Z")

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> [@Hermione](#):
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> The geneticists did a full checkup and reassured the worried parents that the child remained fully Gallifreyan. There might be some problems with some of his regenerations, but nothing that couldn’t be helped. Also, some Terran physical traits might show up in some of his future incarnations, but they could deal with that. There was always a possibility that Terran traits might also show up in some of their son’s children or grandchildren, but…well, they could cross that bridge when they came to it, right?

Clever - but I prefer the Doctor to be purely Time Lord.

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-weird-fanwanks/790292/63 "2017-07-04T00:52:20Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> Les’see…
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> —The “Arnie” T-800 Model 101’s appearance is based off of…Alan “Dutch” Schaefer.

That’s also compatible with my theory that “Dutch Schaefer” is a cover identity the CIA created for John Matrix to cover up all the crimes he committed rescueing his kidnapped daughter from terrorists. (in _Commando_).

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-weird-fanwanks/790292/64 "2017-07-04T02:10:33Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I think this has been mentioned here before, but…
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> The Jetsons and the Flinstones are contemporaries. The Flinstones and their ilk are neo-luddites who are tired of all the high tech shit that their world offers, so they have rebelled and choose to live like their primitive ancestors. But, since they aren’t the brightest people, they don’t know that they aren’t emulating their primitive ancestors. It’s like the Time machine in Idiocracy, or the museum of Old New York in Futurama.
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> All the “stone-age tech” is actually high tech. There are microprocessors in everything, with wireless communication, so the stone phone actually works just like a regular phone. The cities are far enough apart that the Flinstones don’t have to see the Jetson’s cloud cities. The Jetson-villes know about the Stone Age folk, but they just ignore them.
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> Now, this is contradicted in some episodes, but even Star Trek has such contradictions, as does every show. You just have to apocraphize those episodes.

To add to that theory: that time machine Elroy made never really worked. It just teleported them to the surface. A surface where, when we did see it in the Jetsons had a some talking birds.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-weird-fanwanks/790292/65 "2017-07-04T03:10:38Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> My personal Star Trek fanwank, which I never tire of, is that due to Earth’s post-scarcity utopia 99.99% of all people are content to laze around watching holoporn.
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> Starfleet is regarded as a bunch of silly eccentrics who like to do dangerous stuff for no reason, like we regard people who climb Mt Everest…

I think you’ve made that argument on the Dope before, just as I’ve disagreed before. Starfleet has the power of imprisonment (after court-martial conviction) and potential death (when ordered on dangerous missions) over its members, and enforces the law against Federation civilians (just ask Harry Mudd), as well as providing exploratory, diplomatic and military services. It answers to the President of the Federation. It clearly isn’t just a social club or bowling league.

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**Author:** ![Macika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Macika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Macika)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-weird-fanwanks/790292/66 "2017-07-04T07:55:00Z")

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- The original Battlestar Galactica would have arrived at Earth only to find it was the original source of the Cylons. Knight Industries Two Thousand is the direct ancestor of the Cylons, hence the red glowing single eye.

- The Roadrunner doesn’t exist. It is just a figment of the Coyote’s imagination designed to give his empty life meaning. Thus he can’t catch the Roadrunner and subconsciously sabotages his own efforts. This is my “Wile E. Coyote and the ACME of Being” paper that got me an ‘A’ in my philosophy class.

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**Author:** ![Santelia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Santelia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santelia)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2017, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-weird-fanwanks/790292/67 "2017-07-04T11:09:45Z")

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The Kessel Run is an endurance race, like the 24 hours of Le mans, so boasting about the distance covered rather than the time it took makes sense. Sort of.

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