# You'll Never Take Me Alive, Coppers! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 1, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902 "2012-07-01T14:49:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902/21 "2012-07-03T19:29:51Z")
> [@a35362](#): > > Well, but where do they send you for arson? Medium security? Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902/22 "2012-07-03T19:41:26Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Neither really fit the symptoms observed. The onset of violent convulsions ten minutes after ingestion makes me think of strychnine. It’s also easy to get in the form of commercial poison baits for pest control. Hell of a painful way to die, though. Lannate is an insecticide that with the proper dose kills in minutes, here in Trinidad there are no controls on it all agri shops and garden centers sell it by weight in powder form. I’ve seen dogs that were poisoned die of it, something like 3 minutes from first convulsion to death. Scary as shit and supposedly tastes like salt, it has been used in several murders locally. > **[Methomyl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methomyl)** > > Methomyl is a carbamate insecticide introduced in 1966. It is highly toxic to humans, livestock, pets, and wildlife. > The EU imposed a pesticide residue limit of 0,01 mg/kg for all fruit and vegetables. > Methomyl is a common active ingredient in commercial fly bait, for which the label instructions in the United States warn that "It is a violation of Federal Law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling." "Off-label" uses and other uses not specifically targeted at problem in... ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902/23 "2012-07-03T19:44:42Z")
Anyone else find the defense attorney and prosecutor’s surnames to be amusing? ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902/24 "2012-07-03T19:51:40Z")
I mean he wasn’t actually in trouble with the law until the arson, right? He was in a lot of debt but he wasn’t, like, embezzling or something. What a ridiculous, pathetic waste. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902/25 "2012-07-03T20:29:20Z")
> [@a35362](#): > > I mean he wasn’t actually in trouble with the law until the arson, right? He was in a lot of debt but he wasn’t, like, embezzling or something. > > What a ridiculous, pathetic waste. That’s the weird part to me. The guy killed himself over something that, while dishonest, wasn’t disgusting or utterly shameful like rape, murder, pedophillia, or the such. That’s why I am puzzled about him not even waiting for the sentencing. He might have gotten as little as five years, maybe. The article mentions that the max would have been 16. And surely, whatever the sentence, he would have a good chance at early parole. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902/26 "2012-07-03T20:42:04Z")
If he did kill himself. That’s not established yet. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902/27 "2012-07-03T22:17:21Z")
> [@Confused dart cum](#): > > If he did kill himself. That’s not established yet. Did you see the video? Not 100% certain till the autopsy results come in but all evidence points in that direction. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902/28 "2012-07-03T22:31:17Z")
Maybe the bailiff did it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youll-never-take-me-alive-coppers/626902.md?page=1)