# Young Frankenstein or Blazing Saddles?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 2, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460 "2007-01-02T21:03:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/41 "2007-01-03T05:17:11Z")

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I guess I’m in the minority here, but I much prefer Blazing Saddles - however, I only saw Young Frankenstein once as a young teenager. I am now inspired to rent it again and watch it, maybe there’s more to it than I remember.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/42 "2007-01-03T05:17:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Rick]  
Your boyfriend is only funny in spots? 😕  
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No, as a straight guy I’m lacking in the boyfriend department. Nor was BF a mistake, it was . . . ummm . . . a reference to _Blazing Saddles_ and _Young Frankenstein_’s little known crossover sequel, _Blazing Frankenstein_. Really.

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**Author:** ![Mame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Mame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mame)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/43 "2007-01-03T08:32:32Z")

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Put…the candle…back…

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/44 "2007-01-03T12:58:42Z")

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I saw them both in the theater when they came out. I love them both, but Blazing Saddles a little bit more.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/45 "2007-01-03T15:05:30Z")

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I can relate to the racial humor in _Blazing Saddles_ far more than the goofy jokes of \*Young Frankenstein. \* I’m also a huge, huge fan of that classic surreal ending of _Blazing Saddles._ That said, _Blazing Saddles_ hasn’t aged as well as _Young Frankenstein:_ some of the racial humor is downright mean and the rapid homophobia is kind of embarrassing. It’s inimitable as a product of its time. And frankly, while I liked Cleavon Little, the fact that the movie producers had a chance to cast Richard Pryor as Sheriff Bart and passed because he was “too controversial” is enough to make me weap tears for what greatness of what might have been.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/46 "2007-01-03T15:07:26Z")

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Uh, that should have been _rabid_ homophobia. Rapid homophobia is what New Jersey voters got for James McGreevey.

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/47 "2007-01-03T15:13:27Z")

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Just a quick comment to everyone that says the ending to **BS** was “a mess”.

Mel Brooks freely spoofed other movies. Watch the original David Niven/Peter Sellers **Casino Royale** … See the ending? The chaotic nonsense with cowboys, indians, mobsters, armies, etc…?

Now watch the ending of **Blazing Saddles**.  
Get it yet?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/48 "2007-01-03T15:13:42Z")

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YF is overall the better movie, but the single funniest moment in either film is Mongo punching the horse.

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**Author:** ![Kizarvexius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/49 "2007-01-03T15:20:08Z")

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“What hump?”

_Young Frankenstein_, hands down.

The way Marty Feldman grins for the camera just after shouting “Blucher!” at the horses…it cracks me up every single time. There’s no other scene in any other movie that can do that.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/50 "2007-01-03T15:21:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Kizarvexius]  
“What hump?”

_Young Frankenstein_, hands down.

The way Marty Feldman grins for the camera just after shouting “Blucher!” at the horses…it cracks me up every single time. There’s no other scene in any other movie that can do that.  
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I knew there was a reason I liked you.

I have to admit, though, one of my favorite things about Blazing Saddles, and one I always quote, is:

“No, no, no. If you shoot him you’ll just make him mad.”

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**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/51 "2007-01-03T16:24:13Z")

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I like them both, but YF gets the edge.

“Would you like to go for a roll in ze hay?”

“Roll, roll, roll in ze hay!”

That cracks me up every time.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/52 "2007-01-03T16:37:27Z")

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Isn’t this an apples vs oranges thing? YF was written by Gene Wilder, who got Mel Brooks to direct (and obviously add some of his own touches - to what extent I don’t know). BS was written by Mel Brooks from somebody else’s original story.

Or maybe orange-flavored apples vs apple-flavored oranges, but each movie has a distinct origin.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/53 "2007-01-03T17:57:39Z")

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It’s just a matter of taste. I’ve always liked Blazing Saddles better. The horse punch, the sheriff pulling a gun on himself, “our town is turning into s\*\*t”, Dom Deluise and his dancers, the tollbooth in the desert, all classic moments. I liked Marty Feldman, but I think he tried to steal a bit too much of YF.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/54 "2007-01-03T18:14:37Z")

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People have mentioned Gene Wilder being in both films, but I see no love yet for the late great Madeline Kahn, who also did double duty. Of course she was fabulous in both – did she ever give a bad performance, I wonder? – but she was a standout in BS. Her “I’m Tired” is classic.

Still, overall I give the nod to YF. Just as gloriously silly, without needing any beans.

(Small voice: actually my favorite Brooks film is _High Anxiety_, with _The Producers_ coming in a close second. YF is third.)

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/55 "2007-01-03T18:35:04Z")

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YF for me. Like others have mentioned, BS seems like a bunch of pretty good jokes strung together. YF has a more coherent plot with the humor inherent to the characters. Also, it seems like the characters had such good chemistry in YF that is less so in BS. Maybe it’s because the smaller cast of YF allowed for more “personal” humor than the broad stereotyping of BS. The “Walk this way” joke works for me because it’s a joke-in-a-joke. Igor is having fun at the Doctors expense and the joke is funnier because the Doc knows it. BS has some of that humor between Cleavon and Gene, but is more of the “Howard Johnson is right!” jokes where the characters say things that are funny to the audience but not to them.

By the way, I think Richard Pryor would not have been as funny as Cleavon Little. Cleavon is “cooler” and really emphasized how much more urbane he was than the town hicks.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/56 "2007-01-03T18:43:32Z")

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When I saw these movies as a kid I definitely liked BS better because of the raunchy humor and it was in **color.** I just watched this show again in high definition. It has some hilarious scenes, but the end is just a mess and didn’t add anything to the movie. I bet the people involved would like to rewrite it. It’s like they couldn’t think of an ending.

YF stands up way better over time and has a plot. It is the better movie.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/57 "2007-01-03T18:50:47Z")

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Let us not forget Robyn Hilton’s performance as “Miss Stein” in BS.

I think that character singlehandedly launched me into puberty… 😃

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/58 "2007-01-03T19:10:31Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
I think **Blazing Saddles** is the\* funnier\* movie, but **Young Frankenstein** is the _better_ movie.  
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Couldn’t have put it better myself. _Blazing Saddles_ has earthier (some would say “cruder”) humor – the farting scene, Mongo, the racial humor. Yeah, it does have a really messy ending, but it’s in line with the attitude of the movie. _Young Frankenstein,_ on the other hand, is a little more sophisticated in its humor (I said a little!) and depends more on character humor than belly laughs.

Neither of these is actually favorite Mel Brooks movie. That nod would have to go to (believe it or not) Spaceballs. Rick Moranis and John Candy just divvy that movie up between themselves. 'Course, I kind of like the more … um … “visceral” humor.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/59 "2007-01-03T19:29:38Z")

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I grew up on the Universal Monster films, whereas old Westerns were OK but meh. So I think it’s pretty obvious where I am on the YF vs BS debate.

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/young-frankenstein-or-blazing-saddles/386460/60 "2007-01-03T19:33:02Z")

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Blazing Saddles first  
History of the world two  
Young Frank. three  
Kahn was in all of them. At her best in History.  
Wilder was great in Producers beat Mathew B all to death.  
Mostel wins.

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