# Your 6 greatest non-American and non-British bands

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**Created:** [September 11, 2024, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-6-greatest-non-american-and-non-british-bands/1007121 "2024-09-11T12:54:22Z")\
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I need a couple of rulings here, EH. I see The Band was posted above. Do they count? Likewise Neil Young and Crazy Horse. And similarly Osibisa. If allowed that’s my first three.

j

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I can’t rule any of your examples out, and I’m not strict on the details, so nominate them if you wish.

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> I need a couple of rulings here, EH. I see The Band was posted above. Do they count? Likewise Neil Young and Crazy Horse. And similarly Osibisa. If allowed that’s my first three.
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> j

The Band was Canadian except for one member. Neil Young and Crazy Horse was American except for one member. You could say Neil Young as a solo artist but I believe that leaves out all his best work.

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Done. Then

Toots And The Maytals  
Dave And Ansel Collins  
Bob Marley And The Wailers

j

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> Dave And Ansel Collins

Thanks for that recommendation. Never heard of them, but now have “Double Barrel” in my streaming queue. [Allmusic.com](http://Allmusic.com) describes it as “cheesy organs never sounded better”.

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Quite simply one of the greats. Don’t forget Monkey Spanner.

j

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Don’t worry, I have the whole album in my queue.

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The Band  
The Clancy Brothers  
The Heptones  
Max Romeo and the Upsetters  
The Chieftains  
Mouth and MacNeal 😀

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My personal picks, leaning towards hard rock & heavy metal;

Ghost (Sweden)  
Rush (Canada)  
Amon Amarth (Sweden)  
Turisas (Finland)  
Lordi (Finland)  
Blind Guardian (Germany)

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Did anyone mention The Church (Australia)?

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> [@SanVito](#):
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> Well, you lot are going to be snobs about this, but ABBA (Sweden) are one of the most original, successful, prolific and musically (as in song writing terms) accomplished bands of all time.

Why would you say that? I can be a bit snobby about music, but ABBA is absolutely aces in my book. I don’t think they’re the “guilty pleasure” you think they are. They’re pretty much universally lauded, at least among the musicians I know.

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ABBA (Sweden)  
[dEUS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DShD04S1nIs) (Belgium)  
[TC Matic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc28np912mw) (Belgium)  
[Les Innocents](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RSQiS8pKlQ) (France)  
[Bérurier Noir](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPIiAZ0pDIU) (France)  
Einstürzende Neubauten (Germany)

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Why would you say that? I can be a bit snobby about music, but ABBA is absolutely aces in my book. I don’t think they’re the “guilty pleasure” you think they are. They’re pretty much universally lauded, at least among the musicians I know.

Because no one had mentioned them, when they are head and shoulders bigger and more successful than almost everyone else mentioned!

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Bee Gees (Australia)  
ABBA (Sweden)  
Ladysmith Black Mambazo (South Africa)  
Huun Huur Tu (Tuva, just north of Mongolia)  
The Wind Travelin’ Band (Japan)  
The Stampeders (Canada)

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Kraftwerk  
NEU!  
Tangerine Dream  
Can  
Bee Gees  
ABBA

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The Flower Kings (Sweden)  
Iona (Ireland)  
Eloy (Germany)  
Focus (The Netherlands)  
Cast (Mexico)

I’m struggling to come up with a sixth. There are plenty of international bands out there that I am somewhat familiar with, but not enough to say “greatest.” It’s tempting to put Magma or Gong (both France) on the list, but I never got into them as much as I probably should have.

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Thin Lizzy (Ireland)  
Goblin (Italy)  
Dayglo Abortions (Canada)  
Propaganda (Germany)  
Joni Mitchell (Canada) (solo artist)  
88Kasyo Junrei (Japan)

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ABBA (I’ve grown to appreciate them)  
U2 (not so much of a fan [because Bono] but they were good and had a following)  
AC/DC  
BeeGees (not a fan but they were good and had influence)  
The Band (probably the best)  
Thin Lizzy (not a fan but they were good and had a following)

> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#):
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> Oh wait, are we counting Canada?

Canada should probably have their own thread, “6 Greatest Musicians/Bands from Canada”?

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Do we count The Bee Gees as Australian or British?

Thin Lizzy, good shout

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> [@SanVito](#):
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> Do we count The Bee Gees as Australian or British?

Counted by Australia as its very own, which we only usually do for successful New Zealanders. Their first recording as the Bee Gees was in Australia.

Wikipedia says:

> Born on the [Isle of Man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man) to English parents, the Gibb brothers lived in [Chorlton, Manchester](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorlton-cum-Hardy), England, until the late 1950s. There, in 1955, they formed the [skiffle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiffle)/[rock and roll](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll) group [the Rattlesnakes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rattlesnakes_(1950s_band)). The family then moved to [Redcliffe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcliffe,_Queensland), in the [Moreton Bay Region](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Moreton_Bay), [Queensland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queensland), Australia, and later to [Cribb Island](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cribb_Island,_Queensland). After achieving their first chart successes in Australia as the Bee Gees, they returned to the UK in January 1967, when producer [Robert Stigwood](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stigwood) began promoting them to a worldwide audience. The Bee Gees’ [_Saturday Night Fever_ soundtrack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Fever_(soundtrack)) (1977) was the turning point of their career,

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