# Your Baseball Team's All-Time Line-Up **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 15, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070 "2009-07-15T01:40:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/21 "2009-07-15T04:16:07Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > I’m waiting for Washington. > [@Frank](#): > > OF - Tim Raines > > (That’s all I’ve got.) Depending on how far back you want to go. RSP-Walter Johnson ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/22 "2009-07-15T04:16:32Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > OF - Tim Raines > > (That’s all I’ve got.) Never"really" played for the Natinals but if you include the Expos ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/23 "2009-07-15T04:18:22Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Depending on how far back you want to go. > > RSP-Walter Johnson Minnesota. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/24 "2009-07-15T04:20:32Z")
I’ll do them, but I’ll cheat: C Gary Carter 1B Larry Walker\* 2B Jose Vidro SS Orlando Cabrera 3B Ryan Zimmerman OF Andre Dawson OF Vlad Guerrero OF Tim Raines UT Alfonso Soriano UT Andres Galarraga RHP Steven Strasburg RHP Pedro Martinez LHP Randy Johnson - Yes he did ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/25 "2009-07-15T04:27:27Z")
> [@MadTheSwine](#): > > Never"really" played for the Natinals but if you include the Expos That’s the franchise. The first Washington team (in the modern majors) is now Minnesota. The second (a 60’s expansion) is now Texas. The current team was Montreal. Anyone is welcome to argue about this, but we’ve got no Cleveland/Baltimore/Indianapolis deals in this league; the A’s are Philly/KC/Oakland, the Brewers are Seattle/Milwaukee, the Orioles are Milwaukee/St Louis/Baltimore, etc, etc, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/26 "2009-07-15T05:42:57Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > 3b - Nettles ARod is a much better player than Nettles. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/27 "2009-07-15T07:10:36Z")
Not too hard to do my Royals: C - Darrell Porter 1B - Mike Sweeney 2B - Frank White SS - Fred Patek 3B - George Brett LF - Willie Wilson CF - Amos Otis RF - Danny Tartabull DH - Hal McRae. Sorry you don’t like the DH, but Hal did that job for the Royals for a dozen years, I will not shuffle him to the position-less “bench.” It’s been part of major league baseball for 3 dozen years. Live with it already. RHSP - Bret Saberhagen LHSP - Paul Splittorff RP - Dan Quisenberry Bench - John Mayberry Bench - Carlos Beltran Bench - Bo Jackson, just so we could watch him play. Though stat-wise, Johnny Damon or Jermaine Dye would probably be better choices. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/28 "2009-07-15T08:25:59Z")
**Boston Red Sox** There are many greats for some positions and not many for others. Going without the sentimental vote, here’s my list… C - Jason Varitek 1B - Carl Yastrzemski 2B - Dustin Pedroia – current player. I can’t think of a better Boston 2B. SS - Nomar Garciaparra - a healthy Nomar was splendid. 3B - Wade Boggs OF - Jim Rice OF - Ted Williams OF - Dwight Evans DH - David Ortiz – without him, Red Sox fans are still staying, “Wait till next year.” RHSP - Pedro Martinez LHSP - Bruce Hurst RP - Jonathan Papelbon Bench - Manny Ramirez Bench - Jimmie Foxx Bench - Fred Lynn ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/29 "2009-07-15T12:13:00Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > ARod is a much better player than Nettles. No doubt, but chemistry matters too. I hate A-Rod. Nettles had a better glove and with the rest of that lineup I can forego a little offense. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/30 "2009-07-15T14:39:41Z")
> [@MadTheSwine](#): > > But entered the HOF as a Red. It was a sacrilege. He could have managed the Cinci team from Hawaii by postcard. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/31 "2009-07-15T14:53:46Z")
Mets SS Jose Reyes 2B Felix Millan 1B John Olerud C Mike Piazza RF Darryl Strawberry CF Carlos Beltran 3B David Wright LF Cleon Jones SP Tom Seaver SP Johan Santana SP Doc Gooden SP Jerry Koosman SP Ron Darling RP John Franco RP Tug McGraw RP Billy Wagner RP Jesse Orosco RP Armando Benitez Bench: Gary Carter, Edgardo Alfonso, Ed Kranepool, Mookie Wilson, Rusty Staub, ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/32 "2009-07-15T15:37:48Z")
Cheating somewhat: Astros: C Craig Biggio (cheat, sure. but no Brad Ausmus for you!) 1B Jeff Bagwell 2B Joe Morgan (so what?) SS Dickie Thon (verrry slim pickings here) 3B Ken Caminiti (Doug Rader?) LF Lance Berkman CF Cesar Cedeno RF Jimmy Wynn RHP Roy Oswalt (Can’t really claim Clemens… Ryan was good but inconsistent and pitched more for the Angels anyway. J.R. Richard is the “if only” choice, Mike Scott for single-season best.) LHP Mike Hampton (Or Randy Johnson for 1/3 season) RP Billy Wagner Bench: Glenn Davis, Bill Doran, Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/33 "2009-07-15T15:39:58Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > **Boston Red Sox** > LHSP - Bruce Hurst Lefty Grove, surely? ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/34 "2009-07-15T15:43:26Z")
> [@pricciar](#): > > I like this game - even if I have trouble filling my team out. > LF: Greg Luzinski > > UT: Greg Luzinski He’s a big guy, but large enough to take up two roster spots? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/35 "2009-07-15T15:56:06Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > 2B - Dustin Pedroia – current player. I can’t think of a better Boston 2B. Bobby Doerr’s in the Hall of Fame. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/36 "2009-07-15T16:01:43Z")
I think it’s very difficult to do this for the teams who have been around, and successful at both ends of, the World Series era. Take my team, the Cubs, for example. How does one really measure Johnny Evers against Ryne Sandberg? I think it’s almost impossible to do with the base statistics, given the entirely different nature of the game 80 years apart. And a team like the Giants, well, goodness, how in the world do you choose who your starting pitchers are?? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/37 "2009-07-15T16:07:48Z")
I’ve been a Yankees fan for most of my life, but the Twins were the first team I loved (mainly because Earl Battey was the first ballplayer who ever gave me an autograph!). And somebody already did the Yankees. So, I’ll do a Twins roster (without anyone who was purely a Washington Senator). C- Joe Mauer 1B- Justin Mourneau 2B- Rod Carew SS- Zoilo Versalles 3B- Harmon Killebrew LF- Bobby Allison CF- Kirby Puckett RF- Tony Oliva DH- Kent Hrbek P- Johan Santana P- Bert Blyleven P- Jim Kaat P- Frank Viola P- Jim Perry RP- Rick Aguilera RP- Ron Perranoski Manager- Ron Gardenhire (just over Tom “I Won Two World Series, What More Do You Want, Astorian???” Kelly) ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/38 "2009-07-15T16:18:38Z")
Minnesota Twins/Washington Senators C- Joe Mauer 1B- Kent Hrbek 2B- Rod Carew 3B- Gary Gaetti SS- Greg Gagne LF- Torri Hunter CF- Kirby Puckett RF- Tony Oliva RHP- Walter Johnson LHP- Johan Santana Reliever- Joe Nathan I included the Senators just so I could have The Big Train as the pitcher (Blyleven as a starter would be good, too, or Jim Kaat). The only real toss-ups are CF (it has to be Kirby, but Hunter deserves a spot), and reliever (Rick Aguilera was good in the early 90s, but I think Nathan has been top for 6 seasons now). I don’t know much about the Washington teams except that Washington was 1st in war, 1st in peace, and last in the American League, which is why the Twins (rightfully) dominate this line-up. ETA: Beaten to the punch on the Twins by astorian! I didn’t realize Killebrew was a 3B, so I’d switch him in there, and I only go with Hrbek over Morneau because he’s a local guy, and has 2 rings. Give me Kelly as manager, too, please. ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/39 "2009-07-15T16:39:27Z")
OK, I’ll try the Brewers. 1B - Prince Fielder 2B - Jim Gantner - SS - Robin Yount - easiest choice in this thread 3B - Paul Molitor LF - Ryan Braun CF - Gorman Thomas RF - Hank Aaron (Cheating, yes) C - BJ Surhoff P - Pete Vuckovich P - Ben Sheets P - Teddy Higuera P- Jim Slaton P- Mike Caldwell Reliever - Rollie Fingers, Dan Plesac Yeesh, not much pitching to work with. Vuckovich won a Cy Young, and Caldwell had a couple good seasons, but most of the pitchers were 2 or 3 year wonders at most. Gantner is the 2B by default and Fielder gets the nod barely over Cecil Cooper. Hank Aaron gets the RF nod even though he barely played there for the Brewers. But hey, his best years were in RF in Milwaukee and give a me a break, I had to pass on Eddie Matthews and Warren Spahn. ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/40 "2009-07-15T16:55:13Z")
For the Brewers, you may as well go with CC Sabathia. What he did last year was more impressive than anything I’ve ever seen from a Brewers pitcher. (mkecane: Milwaukee resident for 24 years.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070.md?page=3)