# Your Baseball Team's All-Time Line-Up **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 15, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070 "2009-07-15T01:40:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/61 "2009-07-15T20:55:54Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No love for Mike Hampton, folks? Yikes. Mike Hampton is one of two of the worst things to happen to the Rockies. Neagle is the other, though he was at least funny on KBPI, the local rock station; I still break out that Locke Room cd sometimes. Could maybe rank Hampton as a pinch hitter though? [Ellis Burks](http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/burksel01.shtml) should definitely be on there too. A very solid career, including a 42/30 season with the Rocks. To be fair, Perez’s stint with the Rockies wasn’t that bad, but Atkins’ [del]was[/del]is better; let’s see how far he ends up falling off though. Amended Rockies?.. C- Iannetta 1- Helton 2- Young 3- Castilla S- Tulo L- Holliday C- Burks R- Walker SL- Francis SR- Cook Rp- Feuntes B1- Galarraga B2- Bichette B3- Atkins I know the Rockies’ pitching has always been notoriously bad, but until you look at the [actual numbers](http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/COL/pitch.shtml), you just can’t even imagine. yeesh. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/62 "2009-07-15T21:39:59Z")
I find it instructive that the only real brou-ha-ha to erupt over the selections so far has to do with the Colorado Rockies. 😃 Will no one try the Giants?? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/63 "2009-07-15T21:49:31Z")
> [@tds1273](#): > > Yikes. Mike Hampton is one of two of the worst things to happen to the Rockies. Hey, he put up a .860+ OPS both seasons. What could be wrong with that? ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/64 "2009-07-15T21:52:53Z")
> [@MadTheSwine](#): > > Bah..my team will beat your team > You would,however, win the “Pitchers with funny names” game. > > In a countdown show(probly the same) the 75-76 Reds ranked #2 btw. How much difference was there between the the '76 and '72 Reds that the A’s beat in the '72 WS, with the final game at Riverfront? Morgan and Foster? Also remember, Reggie Jackson was in street clothes all seven games. And if anyone wants to make a lineup including the KC and Philly A’s, be my guest. I’m too young to remember anything before they got to Oakland. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/65 "2009-07-15T22:09:04Z")
I’ll do the Giants, but I doubt it’s going to look anything like the list an actual Giants fan would come up with. C. Buck Ewing 1B. McCovey 2B. Rogers Hornsby (Fine… Kent) 3B. Kevin Mitchell SS. Pebbly Jack Glasscock OF. Mel Ott OF. Willie Mays OF. Barry Bonds UT: Frankie Frisch UT: Roger Connor UT: Bill Terry UT: Johnny Mize Backup: Roger Bresnahan RHP Christy Mathewson LHP Carl Hubbell Honorable mention: Tim Keefe of the 42 win season Christ, there isn’t even enough room on the bench for the Hall of Fame first basemen and outfielders. ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/66 "2009-07-15T22:10:27Z")
my mistake, you had Foster and Morgan in 1972. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/67 "2009-07-15T22:15:12Z")
Cleveland Indians 1B: Jim Thome 2B: Nap Lajoie (it could have been Carlos Baerga if he hadn’t completely turned to shit; Roberto Alomar was great during his short time in Cleveland) 3B: Al Rosen SS: Omar Vizquel (Best glove I’ve ever seen; he and Robby Alomar would make the most ridiculous double plays look routine. Perhaps if I had seen Lou Boudreau play I’d have picked him.) OF: Manny Ramirez OF: Albert Belle OF: Tris Speaker C: Victor Martinez RHP: Bob Feller LHP: Sam McDowell (just edges out CC) Relief: Jose Mesa (absolutely unhittable from 1995-1997, except in Game 7 of the World Series when it mattered most m\*&%$!) BENCH: Larry Doby, Earl Averill, Joe Jackson, Kenny Lofton, Sandy Alomar, Lou Boudreau ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/68 "2009-07-15T22:18:58Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > SS. Pebbly Jack Glasscock C’mon, you made that up. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/69 "2009-07-15T22:20:46Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > I find it instructive that the only real brou-ha-ha to erupt over the selections so far has to do with the Colorado Rockies. 😃 Well, picking the best painting at a Museum is easy. Picking the best painting at a garage sale is much more fun and interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/70 "2009-07-15T22:47:29Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > I’ll do the Giants, but I doubt it’s going to look anything like the list an actual Giants fan would come up with. > > C. Buck Ewing > 1B. McCovey > 2B. Rogers Hornsby (Fine… Kent) > 3B. Kevin Mitchell > SS. Pebbly Jack Glasscock > OF. Mel Ott > OF. Willie Mays > OF. Barry Bonds > > UT: Frankie Frisch > UT: Roger Connor > UT: Bill Terry > UT: Johnny Mize > Backup: Roger Bresnahan > > RHP Christy Mathewson > LHP Carl Hubbell > Honorable mention: Tim Keefe of the 42 win season > > Christ, there isn’t even enough room on the bench for the Hall of Fame first basemen and outfielders. What an outfield! Almost as good as the Yanks… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/71 "2009-07-16T00:11:22Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > I’m looking up and down the thread and thinking there would be some awesome games to watch. I kinda sorta saw some of them. A few years ago, I created 32 teams of all-timers, using the Diamond Mind software, and played a couple of seasons with them. It was fun to “see” Wade Boggs hitting against Whitey Ford, etc. Also was interesting to see the effects of a higher level of play on competitive balance … real life all-stars hitting .240 because of the quality of pitching in the all-time league. It was funny, but also kind of sad to see the Rockies and Marlins all-timers try and compete. 12-1 scores were common … ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/72 "2009-07-16T00:17:46Z")
> [@furt](#): > > It was funny, but also kind of sad to see the Rockies and Marlins all-timers try and compete. 12-1 scores were common … You had them organized by team and had 32 teams? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/73 "2009-07-16T00:18:59Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > Two Mets fans both taking Olerud over Keith Hernandez? Wow. I… uh… politely dissent. Their hitting numbers are basically identical, both were great fielders but Hernandez was arguably better, and Mex played nearly twice as many games for the franchise as Olerud did and was part of its last World Series team. I can’t speak for **RealityChuck** , but I’m 27. I only saw Hernandez play in the twilight of his career. On the other hand, I saw John Olerud flirt with .400 during the 1993 season and that has left a mark on my baseball watching career ever since. But Lenny Dykstra for the bench? That man is a Phillie through and through. ---
**Author:** ![Fred\_Garvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c67d28/32.png) [@Fred\_Garvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred_Garvin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/74 "2009-07-16T00:27:53Z")
For the Red Sox C- Varitek 1B- George Scott- the original “Big Papi”, but this big guy could not only play the field, he was one of the best defensive 1B of his time 2B- Bobby Doerr SS- Joe Cronin- captain/manager/security guard 3B- Boggs LF- Williams- I was on the fence with this pick: Teddy or Mike Greenwell CF-Speaker RF- Evans DH- Ortiz RHP- Cy Young LHP- Lefty Grove RP- Dick Radatz ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/75 "2009-07-16T00:54:09Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > I’ll do the Giants, but I doubt it’s going to look anything like the list an actual Giants fan would come up with. > > C. Buck Ewing > 1B. McCovey > 2B. Rogers Hornsby (Fine… Kent) > 3B. Kevin Mitchell > SS. Pebbly Jack Glasscock > OF. Mel Ott > OF. Willie Mays > OF. Barry Bonds > > UT: Frankie Frisch > UT: Roger Connor > UT: Bill Terry > UT: Johnny Mize > Backup: Roger Bresnahan > > RHP Christy Mathewson > LHP Carl Hubbell > Honorable mention: Tim Keefe of the 42 win season > > Christ, there isn’t even enough room on the bench for the Hall of Fame first basemen and outfielders. Yeah, the Giants are loaded. But I would put Matt Williams at 3B instead of Mitchell. No knock on Mitchell, but he played LF for the Giants, while Williams played 3B, with some great numbers. Also, some posters were getting on me because I only included my A’s lineup since 1968. The game has gone through many phases. I believe it’s better to break it up a bit. The game and players in 1909 were probably a little different than it is in 2009. My cut of is before and after 1947. ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/76 "2009-07-16T01:00:33Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Some friendly dissent: > > Bobby Doerr was a HOF’er at 2B. Pedroia may be better eventually, but not yet. > > OF - you have 2 LF’s listed. No fair. Williams is the LF, Tris Speaker the CF. Also, putting Yaz at 1B is a stretch - you really have 3 LF’s listed. Double X is your man. > > RHSP - Pedro was dominant in his prime, but that wasn’t for long enough. Cy Young and Roger Clemens have to be ahead there. > > LHSP - George Herman Ruth. Lefty Grove is in the Hall, too. > > RP - Eck was mostly used up when he came back here, so I’ll agree with Pap. agree with all of this, except- Perdros prime is long enough. He’s had 12 seasons of Star level pitching, during 6 of them he was hands down the best pitcher in baseball. Pedros run from '97 -2003 is arguably the most dominating stretch over 5+ years any player has ever put up in baseball history in terms of how he compared to the rest of the league. Rocket’s no slouch either, but there is nothing wrong with picking Pedro. Winning a world series and not getting himself thrown out of playoff games because he was roid raging in the first inning, nor ever throwing a broken bat shard at a player during a playoff game because he was roid raging and “thought it was the ball”, are small but not insignificant bonus points for me that tip an otherwise debatably even scale to Pedro. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/77 "2009-07-16T01:10:47Z")
Of course, Pedro is now on the all-time Phillies roster, so the point is moot. … what? ---
**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/78 "2009-07-16T01:15:26Z")
Dodgers: SS - Reese 2B - Robinson RF - Dixie Walker 1B - Hodges LF - Pedro Guerrero CF - Snider C - Campanella 3b - Cey SP (L) - Koufax SP ® - Drysdale RP - Gagne Bench - Piazza Bench - Lopes Bench - Reggie Smith ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/79 "2009-07-16T01:21:12Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > I agree it’s not exactly anything to be proud of, but One gold glove is better than anything else the Rockies have had for a Utility/defensive replacement position. Walt Weiss didn’t even have one, and he was the other one in my consideration(and not exactly a stud either). > > I don’t even remember wedge playing for the Rockies. What about Charlie Hayes? He had a nice run with the Rockies, and had a decent career. My vote is for Kazuo Matsui, although he is not a good major league player, his year with the Rockies was spectacular, and they never would have made it to the World Series without his clutch hitting during their run at the end of the season and the playoffs. He also made only four errors on over 500 chances at second base in 2007. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/80 "2009-07-16T02:50:52Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Well, since no one has done it yet I’ll do the Cubbies. > > C - Gabby Hartnett > 1B - Cap Anson > 2B - Ryne Sandberg > 3B - Ron Santo > SS - Ernie Banks > RF - Andre Dawson > CF - Hack Wilson > LF - Billy Williams > > Bench - Sammy Sosa > Bench -\*\* Lou Brock\*\* > Bench - Frank Chance > Bench - Derrick Lee > Bench - Billy Herman > > RSP - Three Finger Brown > RSP - Fergie Jenkins > RSP - Greg Maddox > LSP - Jack Pfiester > LSP - Hippo Vaughn > > CL - Lee Smith > SU - Bruce Sutter > > I’ll take that line-up against anyone. Lou only played with the Cubs for 3.5 seasons, but since you claimed him I’ll trade you Ernie Broglio straight up. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070.md?page=5)