# Your Baseball Team's All-Time Line-Up

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 15, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070 "2009-07-15T01:40:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/121 "2009-07-17T20:33:36Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Oh, it’s cool and all; I did that once with Earl Weaver Baseball. It’s just that there’s only 30 franchises.

D’oh. :smack:

Like I said, it was a few years back … when, um, there _were_ 32 teams.

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**Author:** ![LonghornDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LonghornDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonghornDave)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/122 "2009-07-20T16:21:21Z")

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Here’s my all-time Texas Rangers team:

Catcher: Ivan Rodriguez  
1st Baseman: Rafael Palmeiro  
2nd Baseman: Michael Young  
Shortstop: Alex Rodriguez  
3rd Baseman: Buddy Bell  
Outfield: Juan Gonzalez  
Outfield: Rusty Greer  
Outfield: Ruben Sierra  
Designated Hitter: Frank Howard

Starter: Kevin Brown  
Starter: Nolan Ryan  
Starter: Charlie Hough  
Starter: Fergie Jenkins  
Starter: Kenny Rogers  
Closer: John Wetteland

Manager: Johnny Oates

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/123 "2009-07-20T16:34:01Z")

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I’ll do a Giants, SF Giants only:

LF Barry Bonds  
CF Willie Mays  
RF Orland Cepeda (tough call over Bobby Bonds)  
3B Matt Williams  
SS Chris Speier  
2B Jeff Kent (tough call over Robby Thompson)  
1B Willie McCovey  
C Bob Brenly, by a nose over Benito Santiago. Giants have had virtually no good home-grown catchers in their prime. Can’t wait until Buster Posey comes up to the big club.  
RHP Juan Marichal  
LHP eh. I’ll go with Jason Schmidt, just on the basis of his one good season  
Closer: Rod Beck

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**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/124 "2009-07-21T04:13:59Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I’ll do a Giants, SF Giants only:  
> Closer: Rod Beck

Beck over Robb Nen?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/125 "2009-07-21T05:02:12Z")

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> [@Jules\_Andre](#):
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> Beck over Robb Nen?

Christ. Forgot about Nen.

However…what I do remember about Nen, is that he always would come in and go 1.. 2…ooops…3. Much like Brian Wilson is doing now.

Beck, on the other hand, in a critical game against the Dodgers late in the '97 season, came in in extra innings with the bases loaded and nobody out, and got Eddie Murray to hit into a 1-2-3 DP, and then struck out some schmo to end the threat. Giants get a HR in the bottom half to win…one of the best games I’ve ever seen. So for that he gets into my Hall of Fame.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/126 "2009-07-23T01:34:21Z")

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Too bad the Pirates couldn’t put **Josh Gibson** behind the plate on their all-time team. The best catcher ever to play in the city.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/127 "2009-07-23T01:38:27Z")

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Schmidt’s a righty.

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/128 "2009-07-23T01:58:30Z")

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> [@tds1273](#):
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> **Seattle Mariners**
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> Manager - Lou Piniella
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> RF - Ichiro  
> SS - Alex Rodriguez  
> CF - Ken Griffey Jr  
> 3B - Edgar Martinez (he _has_ to be in the line up and he did start his career at 3rd)  
> 1B - John Olerud  
> LF - Raul Ibanez  
> 2B - Brett Boone  
> C - Dan Wilson
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> SP(L) - Jamie Moyer  
> SP(R) - Freddy Garcia (King Felix will soon claim his throne here)  
> RP - Kazuhiro Sasaki
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> B1 - Randy Johnson(Would be the smarter start, but sentimentality puts Moyer up top. Rules are rules, but both would be 1a and 1b to a distant Freddy or Felix)  
> B2 - Alvin Davis  
> B3 - Jay Buhner  
> (Again sentimentality won out here. Omar Vizquel or Adrian Beltre could have pushed for starter spots based on their defense alone, but they also had/have the offense to support that spot also. A smart manager, especially with injury history of some of the above, would probably also carry Mark “SuperSub” McLemore; could play every position( -p&c) every day and never hurt you in either half of the inning)  
> Pretty sick squad. 2001 heavy off course(116 wins), but amazingly all these guys(Davis aside) are/were playing in the same generation and separated from the team by only a few years. An owner with the gift of 20/20 fore/hindsight could have fielded this very team(minus the RHPs) in real life)

2 mistakes. Phil Bradley in left and Johnson is your #1 starter. Johnson made the Mariners a winning team, Moyer didn’t win till the M’s did.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/129 "2009-07-23T14:59:33Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> Schmidt’s a righty.

I’ll be damned.

Kirk Rueter, then.

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**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-baseball-teams-all-time-line-up/503070/130 "2009-07-23T18:51:49Z")

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> [@racer72](#):
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> 2 mistakes. Phil Bradley in left and Johnson is your #1 starter. Johnson made the Mariners a winning team, Moyer didn’t win till the M’s did.

Bradley was before my time, so I can’t speak of his defense and on the field dynamic, but I still stand by Raul in left. Different types of players- speed(Bradly) vs production(Ibanez), but Ibanez put up consistent numbers and played for more seasons; though admittedly he did little to nothing in his first stint with the team. His defense wasn’t anything to sneeze at either.  
Can’t really argue with Johnson, as I said he would be the smarter starter. As well, he did deliver the Mariners to their first ever post season. Not too shabby out of the bullpen either; never has ‘Welcome to the Jungle’ sounded so good.

Moyer though, just became such a face to the Mariners organization, and he is the all-time team leader for wins, starts and innings pitched. Record wise, as you point out, as he went so went the M’s; though for accuracy’s sake, he put up great W-L records from the moment he [joined](http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/moyerja01.shtml)the team, but his tailing off the last two years here did coincide with the Mariners’ poor seasons. Off the field, however, he and his wife have done(and still do) amazing things for the community through the [Moyer Foundation](http://www.moyerfoundation.org/). One of the nicest, classiest people in all of sports; as I said, sentimentality got him the nod to start.

And just for the sake of covering my own ass, since my originally picked team got quoted on this page and the change was made on a different page, I just wanted to point out that I quickly amended the bench to include Omar Vizquel and Harold Reynolds in place of Davis and Buhner.

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