# Your beliefs and thoughts on the "atheist billboard"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 28, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195 "2010-11-28T19:26:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![PHILLIP\_KALAVERAS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@PHILLIP\_KALAVERAS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PHILLIP_KALAVERAS)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/61 "2010-11-29T03:12:29Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> [Story here](http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/atheist_billboard_near_lincoln.html)

My Gods name is Zilla and he kicks big ass

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/62 "2010-11-29T03:14:18Z")

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> [@fuzzypickles](#):
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> It’s kinda cute, but nowhere near as awesome as [this billboard](http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/7/20/128925790510481527.jpg).

You might have your links mixed up.

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**Author:** ![rhubarbarin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eb9ed0/32.png) [@rhubarbarin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rhubarbarin)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/63 "2010-11-29T03:17:43Z")

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Atheist here, like it. I’m tired of everyone kissing Christian ass in this country. I think they’re irrational, and I tell them so.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/64 "2010-11-29T03:26:00Z")

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I’m agnostic. I would prefer to see a board that makes Christians think rather than one that would just make them angry. But I’m glad athiests put something up. I think American Christians need to be regularly reminded that their beliefs aren’t shared by everyone else in this country - even other Christians.

I just changed my e-mail tag line to read “The tilt of the earth is the reason for the season.” After all, no evidence points to Jesus being born in December anyway.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/65 "2010-11-29T03:30:07Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Not quite, since they aren’t in my face every day. It’s not Islamic people who are pushing their beliefs into American law - or for that matter usually the ones pushing their dogma on the SDMB.

As of this post, 107 of the 125 responses to the poll are by non-Christians. I don’t think anyone can cry about the Christian majority on the SDMB.

> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#):
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> Christian, don’t like it, but I don’t really like religious billboards in general.
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> (and if you’re going to be pedantic and say “atheism isn’t a religion”, you know what I mean.)

A billboard that says “Christianity Sucks” is a religious billboard, just as a billboard that says “George Bush Sucks” is a political billboard. Atheism may not be a religion, but this billboard is anti-Christian, not pro-atheist.

I have no problem with pro-atheist billboards. I still don’t like anti-other-people’s-beliefs billboards. They’re just being rude and obnoxious. And, as pointed out several times in this thread, there are a lot of rude and obnoxious Christian billboards, too. “He did it, too” isn’t a valid reason to be obnoxious.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/66 "2010-11-29T03:36:29Z")

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Question: How could you have a pro-atheist billboard that isn’t also an anti-other-people’s-beliefs billboard?

Isn’t a billboard that says “Jesus died for your sins!” an anti-atheist and anti-Jewish billboard? How is a billboard that says “Jesus isn’t real!” any more an anti-other-people’s-belief billboard than that?

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**Author:** ![PHILLIP\_KALAVERAS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@PHILLIP\_KALAVERAS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PHILLIP_KALAVERAS)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/67 "2010-11-29T03:39:52Z")

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I want to see you put up a billboard on Islam, Otherwise you are just another fraud and a coward.

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/68 "2010-11-29T03:48:50Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> You might have your links mixed up.

Oops!

[This billboard](http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk320/skankytiff/godlistenstoslayer.jpg) is what I meant. :smack:

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/69 "2010-11-29T03:50:50Z")

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Obnoxious.

But then I’ve never seen a billboard of any kind that I like.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/70 "2010-11-29T03:58:09Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> Question: How could you have a pro-atheist billboard that isn’t also an anti-other-people’s-beliefs billboard?

Here are a few examples off the top of my head. Pretend these all have the “American Atheists” tagline at the end.

Anti-Christian:  
[ul]  
[li]You know it’s a myth[/li][li]Jesus kills[/li][li]Religion: Causing wars for at least 4,000 years[/li][/ul]

Pro-Atheist:  
[ul]  
[li]Have doubts? We can help you see reason[/li][li]Given the choice, we’ll take science[/li][li]Some of humanity’s greatest thinkers were atheists[/li][/ul]

See the difference? One set attacks Christianity, the other promotes atheism.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/71 "2010-11-29T04:03:36Z")

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> [@K364](#):
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> Atheist here. Don’t believe in attack ads of any type.
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> Atheists should put up billboards telling people that they’ve got each other, and that’s all they’ve got… that is, stop searching for magic and start looking out for yourself, your family, your community and your country.

This is perfect. I couldnt have said it any better.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/72 "2010-11-29T04:09:27Z")

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Anti-Christian:  
[ul]  
[li]You know it’s a myth[/li][/ul]

Pro-Atheist:  
[ul]  
[li]Have doubts? We can help you see reason[/li][/ul]

> [@Gary](#):
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> See the difference? One set attacks Christianity, the other promotes atheism.

It seems like a distinction without a difference.

Of course, I’m not opposed to attack ads to begin with and I think the more we attack religion the better.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/73 "2010-11-29T04:13:54Z")

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It’s like the difference between a “Go Niners” bumper sticker and a “Raiders Suck” bumper sticker. One’s positive, the other is negative.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/74 "2010-11-29T04:20:12Z")

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Yeah, but the Raiders _do_ suck. Just as the nativity story is, in fact, a myth.

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> [@PHILLIP\_KALAVERAS](#):
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> I want to see you put up a billboard on Islam, Otherwise you are just another fraud and a coward.

**Moderator note:**

If this is directed at **AClockworkMelon** or any other poster on here, you should know that you aren’t allowed to insult them in this forum.

If you meant to attack the group that puts up the atheist billboards, there is no problem there, but next time try to be clearer. Also: please take some time to read a few current threads and get a feel for the culture of the place.

No warning issued.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/76 "2010-11-29T05:29:19Z")

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Christian here. It’s not pleasant, but I have no problem with it.

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Tacky. Looks like a xmas card.

Billboards should be witty or informative, this one’s neither. (I already knew it was a myth.)

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-beliefs-and-thoughts-on-the-atheist-billboard/562195/78 "2010-11-29T06:06:19Z")

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Everytime I see religious billboards (Atheist or Christian, or really any sect), I get a little pain in my Liver and a shot of adrenal pricklin’ along my spine and bad bad thoughts. Besides that, it’s the worst possible Propaganda, a commercial devoid of subtlety, style, and substance… Baaahhdd copy.

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> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> Tacky. Looks like a xmas card.
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> Billboards should be witty or informative, this one’s neither. (I already knew it was a myth.)

Ugh. We made it almost to the bottom without anyone voice my view. I thought I was going to be special :(.

But, yeah. It’s rather stupid. It makes the believers feel better, but does nothing to anyone else. Just like the Christian ones.

And, honestly, if you are going to do something like this, can’t you come up with something that’s at least clever?

But this is so blah I went with “Don’t care either way.”

Also, can we please not do the thing where we argue with **Der Trihs** again? His mind is more made up than most of the Christians I know. It’s pointless.

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Christians and other believers on the other hand would want to make those defects inescapable. They would if they could eliminate all freedom of thought and belief, turn us into religious automatons. A society of zombies for all intents and purposes..

:rolleyes:

I don’t think I could post anything more full of shit if I tried.

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