"Your body does not really digest meat. It only uses the fat & the meat rots in your system" T or F?

Yeah - the way the stuff works is you take it and then you go on a 900 calorie per day diet. And you lose weight!!! Of course, if you*** don’t*** take the stuff and go on a 900 calorie per day diet, you’ll still lose weight, but the nimnoos who believe this don’t think quite that far.

Hello? An all-meat diet has no fiber, and is almost an assured way to severe constipation. If this were true, all meat would insure the runs.

Actually, as was said, Eskimo used to eat almost no plants. Having lots of fat in the diet takes over the need for fiber. But yes, a all lean meat diet can cause problems, just like a all carb diet can.

Note that the original name for Atkins was the “steak and salad diet”, and lots of fresh leafy vegetables is a critical part of any high protein/low carb diet.

I remember reading a book on survival that said that too much squirrell and rabbit, being very lean, causes diarrhea, so to be sure to kill a beaver and use a little fat from the tail with each squirrell/rabbit meal. All of which is amusing, since the best way to survive is to get the heck back to civilization.

In any case, the assertion is bure BS. Wikipedia has an article on protein as a nutrient, which makes clear that protein is a source of amino acids and can also be used as an energy source when carb and fat levels are low.

IMHO, the “Rabbit Starvation Diet” is REALLY hard on the rabbits!
~VOW

Could you go into more detail? How is excess protein a problem for the liver?

It’s not that it is a problem for the liver; it’s a problem for the body that the liver cannot process that much of it. Protein is broken down (and indeed a fair amount of it is broken down by bacteria in the gut btw) into its component amino acids and those amino acids end up being metabolized and producing ammonia. The ammonia is converted into urea by various liver enzymes and urea is mostly then urinated out.

There is some up-regulating ability to those liver enzymes but only so much. As that Cordain quote in post 16 discusses, that limit is such that an 80 kg person could likely only handle a max of 250 grams of protein in a day, or roughly 35% of typical daily calorie needs. Exceed that and, Cordain states, things back up as the liver can’t process all the ammonia coming at it: serum ammonia levels builds up and so do amino acids levels, excess levels of both of which do all sorts of bad things.

Very interesting. Thank you.

No offense to the OP but that might the stupidest thing I have read in some time. :smiley:

Spend some more time on woo sites and you’ll easily find dumber assertions.

Here’s a pro-vegan site arguing, among other things, that humans weren’t designed to eat meat because we don’t have long claws and big sharp pointy teeth.

I’ll bet that some people promoting the we-can’t-digest-meat nonsense also claim that “doctors don’t know anything about nutrition”. :slight_smile:

I love that vegan site you cite, particularly this interesting fact of science: “If a person is suffering from constipation the rotting meat can stay in the intestines for months or years.” Talk about woo woo.

Nitpick: the only enzymes in human saliva are amylase, which breaks down starches, and lipase, which breaks down fats.

Do you have a citation for this? I’ve heard it from reputable sources (including a well-qualified nutritionist).

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If that is so why is human saliva such an effective dissolver of bloodstains which are mainly proteins. Assuming your saliva is clean you can literally suck a fresh small bloodstain right off white clothing with no trace left behind if you spit on it and work it with your teeth for a second.

That may simply be that between the mucopolysaccharides, various glycoproteins, and even a bit of hydrogen peroxide, saliva makes a pretty reasonable detergent. There is a small bit of Kallikrein in there which does cleave some very specific proteins, but it is not felt to have any digestive role (but might activate some other proteins).

Wow, we have bleach in our spit? No wonder I woke up next to that blonde (as I told my wife).

The wiki article on H2O2 is interesting, but only gives a cite to its functioning in us. Maybe that’s also why the blood-stained tablecloth gets clean (a serious question)?

I bet the important words here are “fresh” and “suck” rather than “saliva”.

Is that the reason farts after heavy meat meals are worse (stinkier) than after other meals? If so, could you simplify?

If not, why? Or is that just me?

That’s not too hard to believe if you see what comes out during colonoscopy preparation.

No wonder there are unoccupied seats next to you guys on the bus.