# Your explaination for this work of God

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 17, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223 "2011-11-17T14:00:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/161 "2011-11-18T17:27:08Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Yes that I’m very well endowed, we saw that in your other post.
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> When God repeats something He really means it.
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> Thank you  
> 🙂

> [@GOD](#):
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> Leviticus 18:28
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> that the land vomit not you out also, when ye defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was before you.

Apparently, GOD is displeased with your glib, off-color comments.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/162 "2011-11-18T17:28:47Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Nope. I am unable to think of any. But I certainly believe that the TPTB at the SDMB should send this God of yours a courtesy Mod-Mug right quick. And a blood sacrifice.

I’ll take that for Him yes, and for the blood sacrifice He likes prime rib, which I believe can be ordered online from Omaha Steaks.

😉

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/163 "2011-11-18T17:29:57Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Apparently, GOD is displeased with your glib, off-color comments.

Since He is getting me the mug and prime rib on His behalf, I respectfully disagree.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/164 "2011-11-18T17:38:44Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Since He is getting me the mug and prime rib on His behalf, I respectfully disagree.
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> 🙂

You’re taking this rather lightly. Or do you believe you’re the only person who can magically pass relevant messages on from God?

By the way, God told me to tell you:

> [@God](#):
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> 2nd Kings 19:36
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> So Sennacherib king of Assyria departed, and went and returned, and dwelt at Nineveh.

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/165 "2011-11-18T18:48:30Z")

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> [@David42](#):
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> In the end, most mainstream christians are more devoted to doing things their way than the bible way–for instance, try telling them they should lose the christmas trees, and point to what the prophet Jeremiah wrote, and they’ll completely ignore it in favor of their invented doctrine that christmas trees honor christ. How can you honor a man with something contrary to his views? It’s like naming an aircraft carrier after a pacifist who doesn’t approve of aircraft carriers.

It’s my understanding that most Biblical scholars agree Christmas trees are not forbidden according to Jeremiah as they’re not idols. Here are a few of Christian opinions.

[http://www.orlutheran.com/html/jer10.html](http://www.orlutheran.com/html/jer10.html)  
[http://www.gci.org/church/holidays/trees](http://www.gci.org/church/holidays/trees)  
[http://www.amazingfacts.org/radio/bible-answers-live-question-archive/ctl/playmedia/mid/731/mdid/2511.aspx](http://www.amazingfacts.org/radio/bible-answers-live-question-archive/ctl/playmedia/mid/731/mdid/2511.aspx)

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**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/166 "2011-11-18T19:26:17Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Did not Jesus share His very flesh and blood with a devil (Jn 6:70)?
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> Yes there is a time to set oneself apart, but the reason that Jesus came to this world was to combine with it, all it’s sin, so it may be purified and saved.
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> The OT system was one of isolation + preservation and when violate the Israelites lost, the NT one seemed to go out, to include and eventually have the Lord win. With that win I believe is the ability to enjoy the conquests of the victory Jesus gave to us, including celebrations and to take away the penalty as He endured it for us.

No matter your reasoning for why it is ok, the command did not change: Thou shall have no other gods before me. The prophets warned over and over again, Yehushua upheld the law and the prophets, and you make excuses as to why its ok. Like most, you love tradition more than obeying Yah, do you not? There is nothing that could ever be said to make you abandon a christmas tree, condemned in the scripture, and that’s cause you’re putting the christmas tree first.

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**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/167 "2011-11-18T19:27:53Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> It’s my understanding that most Biblical scholars agree Christmas trees are not forbidden according to Jeremiah as they’re not idols. Here are a few of Christian opinions.
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> [http://www.orlutheran.com/html/jer10.html](http://www.orlutheran.com/html/jer10.html)  
> [http://www.gci.org/church/holidays/trees](http://www.gci.org/church/holidays/trees)  
> [Bible Question Archive | Amazing Facts](http://www.amazingfacts.org/radio/bible-answers-live-question-archive/ctl/playmedia/mid/731/mdid/2511.aspx)

so. Do false prophets agree with other false prophets?

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/168 "2011-11-18T19:29:12Z")

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^ I guess you’re the real deal?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/169 "2011-11-18T19:30:21Z")

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> [@David42](#):
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> No matter your reasoning for why it is ok, the command did not change: Thou shall have no other gods before me. The prophets warned over and over again, Yehushua upheld the law

Again, isn’t the _“no other gods before me”_ law supposed to be the reason Yehushua was executed?

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**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/170 "2011-11-18T19:33:07Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> ^ I guess you’re the real deal?

So you say.

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/171 "2011-11-18T19:33:53Z")

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Do you know what question marks convey?

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**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/172 "2011-11-18T19:34:12Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Again, isn’t the _“no other gods before me”_ law supposed to be the reason Yehushua was executed?

Generally I agree with that.

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**Author:** ![David42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@David42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David42)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/173 "2011-11-18T19:35:32Z")

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> [@x-ray\_vision](#):
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> Do you know what question marks convey?

In this instance, it means you were most likely criticizing me for a claim I didn’t make.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/174 "2011-11-18T19:41:39Z")

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Plates of shrimp?

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/175 "2011-11-18T19:42:52Z")

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> [@David42](#):
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> In this instance, it means you were most likely criticizing me for a claim I didn’t make.

It was a question that I think deserves an answer. Why should anyone trust you regarding Bible translation? Why should anyone that attempts to explain the Bible to others be called a false prophet or a prophet at all? Since you’re giving us your interpretation, are you a prophet? If not, how is it that you’re different than the folks that wrote what I linked in post #165?

I read Jeremiah. It’s clear to me that people don’t worship Christmas trees as idols and having one is not going against anything written in Jeremiah.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/176 "2011-11-18T19:45:30Z")

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Whoa, whoa, whoa, people. Slow down and let us reflect upon God’s word:

> [@Revelation 21:27](#):
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> “and there shall in no wise enter into it anything unclean, or he that maketh an abomination and a lie: but only they that are written in the Lamb’s book of life.”

So there ya go. He hath spoken. What say you now, heathens?

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/177 "2011-11-18T20:14:02Z")

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> [@David42](#):
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> No matter your reasoning for why it is ok, the command did not change: Thou shall have no other gods before me. The prophets warned over and over again, Yehushua upheld the law and the prophets,

I never said anything to contradict this.

> [@](#):
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> and you make excuses as to why its ok.

Where did I do that. I think you misunderstood what I tried to state. It is exactly putting God first that allows everything else.

> [@](#):
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> Like most, you love tradition more than obeying Yah, do you not? There is nothing that could ever be said to make you abandon a christmas tree, condemned in the scripture, and that’s cause you’re putting the christmas tree first.

As long as you put God first, what is the violation of what you put second or third or forth or…

😕

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/178 "2011-11-18T20:18:09Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Again, isn’t the _“no other gods before me”_ law supposed to be the reason Yehushua was executed?

I think you really don’t know what that law was, nor do I think it’s stated outright. There are some assumptions, as I mentioned 2 of them, but as for what that actual 'we have a law 'is I don’t believe is stated.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/179 "2011-11-18T20:24:25Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> I think you really don’t know what that law was, nor do I think it’s stated outright. There are some assumptions, as I mentioned 2 of them, but as for what that actual 'we have a law 'is I don’t believe is stated.

You quoted me, quoting John 19:7, right there on page one: _“The Jews answered him, ‘We have a law, and according to our law He ought to die, because He made Himself the Son of God.’”_ If you think it’s a different law, I’m all ears.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-explaination-for-this-work-of-god/603223/180 "2011-11-18T20:31:55Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> You quoted me, quoting John 19:7, right there on page one: _“The Jews answered him, ‘We have a law, and according to our law He ought to die, because He made Himself the Son of God.’”_ If you think it’s a different law, I’m all ears.

So what is the law he violated?

Scriptures (Ps 82:6) state He is.

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