# Your Favorite Law & Order Partnership

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 12, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954 "2014-07-12T23:11:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/1 "2014-07-12T23:11:59Z")

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So, in response to the “what polls do we need?” thread, here’s one covering a topic I think we simply must know.

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**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/2 "2014-07-12T23:25:06Z")

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I don’t think a poll was needed.

Logan and Briscoe, of course.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/3 "2014-07-12T23:28:07Z")

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I voted Logan and Briscoe just because, Briscoe, but I always liked Greevey and wish they’d show some of those reruns instead of just the more recent ones.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/4 "2014-07-12T23:38:49Z")

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Logan and Briscoe.  
If Fontana had a better partner he would have had a chance.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/5 "2014-07-13T00:26:24Z")

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I liked Briscoe and Green the best.

And Abby Carmichael as the McCoys assistant.

WGN & Sundance channels were running all the Greevy & Cerreta episodes a month or so ago.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/6 "2014-07-13T00:37:40Z")

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I went with Briscoe & Greene too, I think the show was at its peak with them.

The episode when Lenny retired I thought that they really captured that happy/sad mix when someone you like moves on.

Dennis Farina (Fontanna) is a great actor, and I always enjoy anything he does, he was so damn funny in Snatch.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/7 "2014-07-13T00:49:04Z")

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Thinking out loud:

Did Jack McCoy ever go against a defense attorney named “Hatfield”?

BTW, one of the defense attorneys that Stone went against was named (Horace) McCoy, played by James Earl Jones.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/8 "2014-07-13T00:55:38Z")

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I liked Lenny and Green, but I liked Logan more.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/9 "2014-07-13T01:04:11Z")

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I voted for Briscoe and Logan. It’s funny that they are by far the most popular, because Dick Wolf thought they were too similar, and had Chris Noth fired in order to replace him with someone less like Briscoe.

I never did like Curtis that much (albeit, I liked some of the episodes he was on a lot); my second choice would be Briscoe and Green. After that, I like the Greevey-Logan-Ceretta seasons. I think the writing was very good early on.

This is one of my favorite shows, and I love that it tied _Gunsmoke_ for longest show, even though _Gunsmoke_ produced more episodes.

The show premiered when I was 23, and lasted until I was 43, so it seems like it was on my whole adult life.

IMO, it’s one of the few mystery/cop shows that you can watch repeatedly. Usually, the point is “Who did it?” and one you’ve seen it once, what’s the point? but the whole show is so interesting, that I like rewatching even the ones I’ve seen several times before.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/10 "2014-07-13T01:07:23Z")

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Logan and Briscoe, though I stopped watching not long after Curtis left, so I only saw a little bit of Green, only one of which was with Fontana, and nothing of any later pairs.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/11 "2014-07-13T02:06:11Z")

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Briscoe and Logan, no contest.  
Now, for hypothetical lesbian lawyer partnerships, there’s Cabot and Carmichael…

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/12 "2014-07-13T02:14:14Z")

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That’d be a crossover-- really screw up the reruns.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/13 "2014-07-13T02:27:25Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> WGN & Sundance channels were running all the Greevy & Cerreta episodes a month or so ago.

I saw some of those. I only started watching the show in the Briscoe/Logan/Van Buren/Kincaid/McCoy era. I knew there’d been other detectives and ADAs before, but I guess I just assumed that they’d cleaned house and brought in that whole cast together. I didn’t realize there were episodes with Briscoe and Cragen, or Kincaid and Stone.

I’d like to see some of their first and last episodes, to see how the characters were introduced or written out.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Now, for hypothetical lesbian lawyer partnerships, there’s Cabot and Carmichael…

Or Southerlyn, if you want to preserve continuity.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/14 "2014-07-13T02:31:31Z")

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Which one was played by Paul Sorvino? He was the best.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/15 "2014-07-13T02:35:00Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> I voted for Briscoe and Logan. It’s funny that they are by far the most popular, because Dick Wolf thought they were too similar, and had Chris Noth fired in order to replace him with someone less like Briscoe.

Are you sure Noth was fired?

Yeah he fired a Cragen and Robinette because he was ordered to bring in women and fired Stone(who I always liked more than McCoy) for reasons best left for another thread, but I always heard Noth left on his own accord.  
Certainly the show went through actors like Kleenex or the TV show Homicide.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/16 "2014-07-13T02:35:25Z")

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When I saw the thread title, I said “Lennie and Mike - there is no other partnership,” and it looks like the poll pretty much agrees.

Paul Sorvino played Phil Ceretta. I enjoyed his performance very much, but Lennie and Mike were in a class by themselves.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/17 "2014-07-13T02:45:58Z")

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> [@Absinthe\_Anecdote](#):
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> Dennis Farina (Fontanna) is a great actor, and I always enjoy anything he does, he was so damn funny in Snatch.

Unfortunately, it’s was. He died last year.

I voted for Briscoe and Green.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/18 "2014-07-13T03:43:10Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Are you sure Noth was fired?
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> Yeah he fired a Cragen and Robinette because he was ordered to bring in women and fired Stone(who I always liked more than McCoy) for reasons best left for another thread, but I always heard Noth left on his own accord.

Don’t know if Noth was fired or left on his own, but he didn’t leave the character behind. There was a made-for-TV movie ([Exiled (1998)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0164023/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_34)) in which he was working in Staten Island and trying to crack a big case so he could be transferred back to Manhattan, and then he was on _Law & Order: Criminal Intent_ from 2005 to 2008.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/19 "2014-07-13T05:12:49Z")

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I wrote Briscoe and Curtis, of course, but I was also very happy with the last pairing of Lupo and Bernard. The show really got a lot of its mojo back before it was cancelled.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-law-order-partnership/692954/20 "2014-07-13T06:11:43Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> …This is one of my favorite shows, and I love that it tied _Gunsmoke_ for longest show, even though _Gunsmoke_ produced more episodes.
> 
> The show premiered when I was 23, and lasted until I was 43, so it seems like it was on my whole adult life…

“The Simpsons”…  
(at 25 seasons and 552 episodes per the wiki, my vote for best series of all time, but of course, YMMV)

My vote was for Briscoe and Logan. Like everyone else, it seems. Best ADA, anyone? Are we Moriarty people or Watterson people?

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