# Your favorite movies no-one knows

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**Created:** [October 7, 2000, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041 "2000-10-07T04:25:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mofo\_Rising](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mofo\_Rising](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mofo_Rising)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/121 "2000-10-25T00:08:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ivar \*  
> what about…
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> Ruben & Ed - starring Howard Hesseman and Crispin (Marty McFly) Glover, written and directed by Trent Harris. I lived in Utah for awhile and the director is form there so i heard about it. Super surreal film. \*\*

“We love you, Ruben! And we love your shoes!”  
“My cat can eat a whole watermelon!”

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**Author:** ![Mofo\_Rising](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mofo\_Rising](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mofo_Rising)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/122 "2000-10-25T08:03:16Z")

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I’d like to put forth **Miller’s Crossing**.

Now this movie is actually fairly well-known, and all the critics seemed to love it. In fact, the main quibble Ebert had with it is that it was a little “too perfect”. As in the dialogue and the plot points and the look of the movie was so down pat that it leant an air of unreality to the movie. I’m sure that’s the opposite of “damning with faint praise” if there is an example.

But, in spite of all this, almost everybody I know hasn’t seen this movie. Once in a while I sit down and make people watch this movie. All I say is “Gabriel Byrne is one of the baddest motherf\*\*\*er’s you’ve ever seen.”

But it’s not this way I would recommend this movie to all you _discriminating_ Dopers. It’s just a good example of classic film noir interpreted through modern day sensibilities. It’s cool throughout the entire movie and doesn’t miss a beat. Scenes to look for are Albert Finney defending himself with a tommy-gun, and pretty much any scene with the Dane, who looks like he just walked out of one of those old-time films.

“‘Friends’ is a mental state.”

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/123 "2000-10-25T21:34:35Z")

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Some more…

**Time Bandits** (Terry Gilliam, IIRC)  
**Stalingrad** (a horrific early '90s German war film)  
**Killer Klowns From Outer Space**

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2000, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/124 "2000-10-25T23:59:27Z")

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**Full Moon High** - with Adam Arkin as a teenage werewolf. Or at least, he thinks he is. Gets really hilarious when Alan Arkin turns up and starts talking to the camera. Only seen this once, so may be less funny than I remember…

**Radio Flyer** - Elijah Wood and Joseph Mazello as very young kids who have a bad time with a stepfather. Lots of child’s POV sequences.

**Cabin Boy** - Chris Elliot as Chris Elliot. A lot better than anyone gives it credit for. I think a lot of people just hear it’s a ‘bomb’ and go with the vocal minority. I also question the bomb-itude of Ishtar.

**Goodbye Pork Pie** - a classic New Zealand movie that nobody outside of the country has ever heard of.

**Krull** - Fantasy movie. Very cool sequences. Stars such actors as Robbie Coltrane, Liam Neeson, and Francesca Annis. Wonderful! Wish it was on DVD.

**Starchaser: The Legend of Orin** - A great animated movie, clearly stealing ideas from Star Wars, but doing it well. Funny, too.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2000, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/125 "2000-10-28T18:06:34Z")

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One of my favorites was **Phantom of the Paradise** , which was a retelling of the Faust story with Paul Williams as a record mogul, who was actually Satan. I also recall one called **The Clonus Horror** , which was a terrifying story of clones being kept for body part harvesting - It gave me more than a few nightmares. And has anyone seen the TNT movie **The Rough Riders** , with Tom Berenger as Teddy Roosevelt?

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2000, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/126 "2000-10-28T19:26:13Z")

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Wow, not only have I seen most of these, I have a fair number of them in my video collection. Either they’re not that obscure or I’m a hard-core film geek. You decide.

My nomination for a **truly** obscure movie nobody has heard of:

_ **Guy.** _ Years before _The Truman Show_, _EdTV_, and the like, came this small independent movie starring Vincent D’Onofrio. He’s an ordinary guy who unexpectedly starts getting followed around by a documentary filmmaker with her camera. The whole movie is from the documentarian’s point-of-view; we see what the pursuing camera sees. He has no idea why she’s filming him; she just suddenly intrudes into his life and tells him he’s the subject. Occasionally unpleasant and misanthropic, but very, very interesting, and very much ahead of its time.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2000, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/127 "2000-10-28T19:45:22Z")

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**Mofo Rising** I loved _Miller’s Crossing_! A great gangster film that I think got overshadowed by Scorcese’s _Goodfellas_. Had they come out a few more months apart, I think _Miller’s Crossing_ would’ve gotten more of the recognition it deserved.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2000, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/128 "2000-10-28T19:57:44Z")

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Another vote here for **Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead**. I found this at a Blockbuster in San Antonio when I was in the AF, but can’t seem to find it anywhere in St Louis! I especially liked seeing Gary Oldman being hilarious in a comedic role instead of being the villian _again_.

I’d also liked to add another vote for **A Midnight Clear**. Absolutely wonderful and gives you a unique perspective on how wars are fought and how human the soldiers are - even those we are taught to hate because they are ‘the enemy’

And I don’t know how obscure this film will be to the Dopers, but no one I know IRL has heard of it, and I haven’t seen it for rent anywhere. I loved **Sleuth** starring Michael Caine and Lawrence Olivier. Two _tour d’force_ performances by two great actors. (This is back when Michael Caine used to be a good actor.) In fact, if it hadn’t been for a bout of insomnia and this being shown on PBS, I may have never seen it. I’m glad I taped it that night too (I always pop a tape in the machine and record a movie if I think I may like it) because as I said, I’ve never seen this anywhere else for sale or rent.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2000, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/129 "2000-10-29T02:23:13Z")

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Chunking Express came out in Hong Kong back 6 or 7 years ago, and was recently released in the US on video as part of Quentin Tarentino’s Rolling Thunder collection of movies. This is one of my favorite movies, and is probably one of the most artistic and brilliant films ever made. Wong Kar-Wai was the director, and he is pretty much the big “art film” director in Hong Kong right now. The plot involves two separate stories, both involving police officers who have just been ditched by their girlfriends. This film has countless beautiful and meaningful shots, and deserves wide recognition. Go see it.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2000, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/130 "2000-10-29T05:54:30Z")

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Okay…

[**Never Cry Wolf**](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0086005) True story of a guy sent to document that wolves are depleting caribou herds, as a precursor to instituting bounty-hunting. He finds that the wolves aren’t the real threat. Gorgeous, haunting, scenic film with a wonderful score by Mark Isham.

[**All You Need is Cash**](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0077147) The documentary of the Rutles, otherwise known as the Prefab Four. A few Pythons, some original SNLers, and a few real rock stars make the funniest Beatles spoof in existence.

[**Alice in Wonderland**](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0074113) It’s Alice, it’s X-rated, and it’s a _musical!_ Absolutely one of my favorite movies of all time. “I should probably dry off. Does anyone have a towel?” “We used to have one, but it was stolen by a hotel.” Rimshots galore, and the songs are great. _What’s a Nice Girl Like You Doing on a Knight Like This?_ is hilarious.

[**The Legend of Billie Jean**](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0089470) Sharon Slater goes on the lam with her brother (played by Christian Slater—no relation) and a few of her friends (one is Yeardly “Lisa Simpson” Smith), after unfairly being ripped off by a shady local. Becomes a local hero. Cool little movie, and she was stunning.

…thinking…

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2000, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/131 "2000-10-29T07:07:10Z")

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Roadside Prophets  
Crimewave

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2000, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/132 "2000-10-29T07:47:35Z")

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**Black Robe** : Story about Jesuits in 17th century New France traveling deep into Ottawa territory.

**The Mountain Man** : Charlton Heston plays a free trapper in the golden years of the fur trade era.

**Jeremiah Johnson** : Robert Redford plays the lead as “Jeremiah ‘Liver-eatin’ Johnson” loosly based on history.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2000, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/133 "2000-10-29T08:20:00Z")

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**The Name of the Rose**  
Set during the inquisition, this flick features Sean Connery as a monk who investigates mysterious deaths at a monestary he visits.

**The Next Voice You Hear**  
Stars James Whitmore and Nancy Reagan. No-one knows quite what to make of it when a voice on the radio claims to be G-d with messages for mankind.

**Rustler’s Rhapsody**  
Tom Beringer and G.W. Baily star in this send-up of B-westerns. Directed by Hugh Wilson (Police Academy, Blast from the Past, Rough Riders, Dudley Do-Right).

~~Baloo

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2000, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/134 "2000-10-29T21:21:25Z")

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I, too, have heard of and seen Gummo. I thought it was disgusting and pointless. Who wants to see kids killing cats? Not me.

I also love The Secret of Roan Inish. My mom made me watch it a couple years ago, and I was pleasantly surprised. All my friends hate it, and that upsets me.

Some other great movies:

How to Get Ahead in Advertising  
Manny and Lo  
Heavenly Creatures  
The Addiction  
Buffalo '66  
Stealing Beauty  
The Lost Boys  
A Clockwork Orange  
Newsies (obscure, but has a huge following of teenage girls)  
Dream for an Insomniac

I watch the Independent Film Channel a lot. Keep in mind that my idea of obscure is probably a lot different from everyone who will read this. I’m sixteen, and all my friends watch romances and blockbusters. Sickening.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2000, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/135 "2000-10-29T22:16:25Z")

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“Flesh+Blood” (Rutger Hauer and Jennifer Jason Leigh in a 16th century action/psychological drama. One of Paul Veerhoeven’s pre-RoboCop movies and one of his few good ones.)

LOVED IT!!!

and the Lost Boys!! Oh that was a good one!

I really liked **“Like Water for Chocolate”** …had anyone else seen it?

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2000, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/136 "2000-10-29T22:18:56Z")

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King Solomon’s Mines- Incredibly corny, but fun to watch.

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> transporting some unstable dynamite (like, if you have to sneeze, go to another hemisphere unstable) 200 miles through the jungle to an oil well fire. It turns into some kind of epic, gritty road picture. And nothing happens halfway in this movie. Every rainstorm is a monsoon. They cross

I swear that was an episode of Macguver.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2000, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-movies-no-one-knows/36041/137 "2000-10-30T00:31:03Z")

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**Fearless** starring Jeff Bridges, and Rosie “Our Lady of Annoying Voices” Perez. I really liked this movie, but I don’t know anyone personally who has actually seen this movie.

Most of the other movies I would have mentioned here have already been mentioned by others…

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