# Your favorite sushis **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502 "2010-06-09T03:45:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/41 "2010-06-11T03:28:16Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > **scifisam2009** said that sushi wasn’t the same thing as raw fish, and she was right. There are many different kinds of sushi, and although some contain raw fish others do not. > > The fact that sashimi usually (although not always) involves raw fish is beside the point. It would be beside the point even if sashimi were a kind of sushi because there would still be other kinds of sushi that don’t contain raw fish. However, sashimi is NOT actually a kind of sushi. If the dish doesn’t contain vinegared rice then it’s not sushi. That’s what “sushi” means. I thought the raw fish was implied since scifisam2009 was asking about, “fish grabbed direct from the sea.” The rice is going to be the same whether the fish was caught yesterday, or had been stuck in a freezer for a month. Why even bother discussing that aspect of it? When I go to eat sushi, I don’t deprive myself of sashimi because it doesn’t fit a strict definition. The OP wouldn’t be out of line if he served sashimi along side the sushi either. I’ve also tried two types fish that were cooked minutes after catching. The yellowtail was overcooked so I wasn’t much of a fan but on another trip, we had a Boccacio (sometimes called Salmon Grouper) sandwich, which was delicious once you got over the parasitic worms that were in the fillet. Frankly, it’s not worth the effort. A properly handled and frozen fish should taste almost as good as a fresh one. It’s also safer to eat raw. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/42 "2010-06-11T08:17:45Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > I thought the raw fish was implied since scifisam2009 was asking about, “fish grabbed direct from the sea.” > > The rice is going to be the same whether the fish was caught yesterday, or had been stuck in a freezer for a month. Why even bother discussing that aspect of it? > > When I go to eat sushi, I don’t deprive myself of sashimi because it doesn’t fit a strict definition. The OP wouldn’t be out of line if he served sashimi along side the sushi either. > I’ve also tried two types fish that were cooked minutes after catching. The yellowtail was overcooked so I wasn’t much of a fan but on another trip, we had a Boccacio (sometimes called Salmon Grouper) sandwich, which was delicious once you got over the parasitic worms that were in the fillet. > > Frankly, it’s not worth the effort. A properly handled and frozen fish should taste almost as good as a fresh one. It’s also safer to eat raw. The OP wouldn’t be out of line if he served sashimi, not at all, but he also wouldn’t be out of line if he served things like wasabi peas, edamame, katsu curry and things like that. In fact, that’d be cool because they’re all lovely and all common at restaurants that serve sushi. But that doesn’t mean they’re sushi. It sounds pedantic, but it’s not - it’s really misleading to act as if sushi means raw fish. I’ve met a lot of people who’ve told me they can’t eat sushi because they’re vegetarian and numerous people who think sushi without fish isn’t sushi. BTW, it looks like you think I was saying that fish caught directly from the sea is sushi; to clarify, I was asking why you guys were talking about them as sushi. I don’t think the OP is going to have a choice between making maki rolls and taking his guests scuba-diving for yellowtail, even though the latter would be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/43 "2010-06-11T09:09:28Z")
To clear things up. In Japanese, Sushi = vinegared rice. Commonly used in rolled (maki) or lump (nigiri) form. May be topped with fish, seafood or vegetables. Sashimi = raw fish. Threadjack over. Now, my favourite sushi is actually hamachi (yellowtail). I can’t stand ika (squid) or uni (sea urchin), but that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/44 "2010-06-11T12:06:43Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > The rice is going to be the same whether the fish was caught yesterday, or had been stuck in a freezer for a month. Why even bother discussing that aspect of it? Because we’re discussing what the word “sushi” means, and sushi by definition involves vingegared rice. It’s really not that complicated. > [@](#): > > \*When I go to eat sushi, I don’t deprive myself of sashimi because it doesn’t fit a strict definition. The OP wouldn’t be out of line if he served sashimi along side the sushi either. \*You can eat whatever you like, but this board is about fighting ignorance and you were incorrectly claiming that sashimi and sushi are the same thing, or that sashimi is a kind of sushi. That’s simply wrong. This doesn’t have to be a big deal, but you are making it one by trying to argue about it rather than just accepting that you were wrong and moving on. > [@Tabby\_Cat](#): > > Sashimi = raw fish. > > Threadjack over. I’m sorry to keep dragging this out, but this isn’t exactly right either. Sashimi means something like “pierced meat”, and while it’s _usually_ raw fish this isn’t always the case. I personally have seen horse meat sashimi, although you’re unlikely to encounter that particular delicacy in restaurants in the US. ---
**Author:** ![CrimeThink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90db22/32.png) [@CrimeThink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrimeThink)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/45 "2010-06-11T13:37:42Z")
I do not understand the love for sea urchin. Every time I go to a sushi place I get one order of something I have never tried, and I have to say this was the worst thing I have ever tried at a sushi place. It was like eating thick ocean water. I still ate it all out of principle but I don’t understand why anyone would want to. My favorites are still the basics - tuna and salmon and the occasional eel, crab and shrimp. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/46 "2010-06-11T15:53:44Z")
The sushi itself? Heck, they’re all pretty much the same. It’s that soy sauce loaded up with wasabi that makes it for me! ---
**Author:** ![McDeath\_the\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a3d4f5/32.png) [@McDeath\_the\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/McDeath_the_Mad)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/47 "2010-06-11T17:50:30Z")
Mmmm sushi! My favorite is torro (fatty tuna) nigiri. My typical sushi order is: Torro Nigiri x 6 Salmon Nigiri x 6 California Roll with tobiko x 8 I think I might have sushi for lunch today! MtM ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/48 "2010-06-11T18:26:27Z")
> [@](#): > > BTW, it looks like you think I was saying that fish caught directly from the sea is sushi; to clarify, I was asking why you guys were talking about them as sushi. I misread that post I guess. I thought, instead of Yellowtail sushi, or avacado sushi, you were talking about freshly grabbed from the sea sushi. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/49 "2010-06-11T19:21:59Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > I misread that post I guess. I thought, instead of Yellowtail sushi, or avacado sushi, you were talking about freshly grabbed from the sea sushi. … Which isn’t sushi. 😃 We all misread things now and then. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/50 "2010-06-11T20:42:37Z")
Am I the only one here who likes cream cheese?? I _love_ Philly rolls – Salmon, cream cheese, and cucumber. Mmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/51 "2010-06-11T21:23:16Z")
I had lunch at [Kiriko](http://www.kirikosushi.com/)with my wife today. It’s our favorite. It’s not flashy, but the fish is excellent. Today they had an albacore special that was incredible. It was a bowl of rice with sliced albacore one side and chopped miso albacore on the other. I hope they add it to their regular menu. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/52 "2010-06-12T03:26:11Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > … like to experiment with pickled turnip. Maybe do a [Kibbeh Naya](http://cookingandkitchenstories.blogspot.com/2008/12/kibbeh-nayeh-family-recipe.html) Maki. Maybe a base of the nori covered with vinegared rice per the usual then some lamb carpacchio and/or ground lamb tartare with the typical mediterranean spices and bulgar all rolled around a core of pickled turnip with a sprinkle of togarashi. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/53 "2010-06-12T04:10:56Z")
Maybe garnish or serve with a tahini, lemon, a spoonful of Miso, yoghurt, Kewpee, and Mint and pomengranite suace. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/54 "2010-06-12T04:22:00Z")
Strike Mint: Actually, I think Shiso would be better than mint in that sauce. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/55 "2010-06-12T05:01:31Z")
And probably ponzu rather than Lemon Juice… hard to decide which direction to take this in. I suppose the sauce should mostly be split… either Middle Eastern or Japanese, I tend to take this into crazy japanese topping territory, I thnk the only thing that might be unusual to the japanese palate within this sauce is the yoghurt… sesame paste and pommegranate, no problem. This Sushi Maki could probably be big in Japan… Japanese want something different by way of sushi… the Americans want the traditional Japanese sushi because we think it exotic. Kind of a jaded view, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502/56 "2010-06-12T05:20:41Z")
The sushi place around the corner from us makes a tempura asparagus roll that is to die for. Not the best sushi place I know of otherwise, but those 'gus rolls would keep me coming back even if it weren’t so darn close. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-favorite-sushis/542502.md?page=2)