# Your "grilled cheese for grownups" is a hamburger! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663 "2010-05-25T02:50:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/81 "2010-05-26T04:29:22Z")
[I guess calling it a “Thickburger” is strictly a Hardee’s thing.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoiM_F6drn4) ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/82 "2010-05-26T04:40:51Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > I keep picturing a grilled cheese sandwich that wants to fuck me. Oh, yeah. Hot cheese all over the place. The tomatoes are perky, and the mutton is nice and lean. Fuck, yeah…aaah, I don’t care what it’s called; I’m all over that. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/83 "2010-05-26T05:50:24Z")
Damn it, now I want a grilled cheese =\_= ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/84 "2010-05-26T06:18:53Z")
> [@](#): > > If I seem a little peeved about this distinction it’s because I was duped into buying one of those. I stupidly expected it would be a ground beef patty that had been roasted. (BTW, is it even possible to cook a ground beef patty this way?) It’s possible to put a ground beef patty in a pan and put it in the oven, and cook it that way. I’m not sure that this is, strictly speaking, roasting the thing. If it’s got gravy on it while it’s cooking, that’s a Salisbury steak. Usually I just put the patty down on one of those “fat drainer” pans, the kind with two pans, one inside the other, and the inner pan has holes for the fat to drain through. These pans are marketed as being meatloaf pans, but they’ll work well for patties too. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/85 "2010-05-26T06:39:56Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > That’s not a grilled cheese for grownups. [This is](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UIXOn06Pz70/R3FSdGt2PYI/AAAAAAAAAJI/m2FTdStQ9mo/s800/Croque+Monsieur.jpg). Oh heavens! :eek: RECIPE!!! NOW! please??? 😃 It even has whole grain bread (whole oat if I am recognizing it clearly). ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/86 "2010-05-26T08:18:52Z")
I prefer this kind of [grilled cheese](http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/relationships/blog/2009/06/allergic_to_grilled_cheese.html) sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/87 "2010-05-26T13:05:21Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Anyone ever used this on a steak? Divine. > > [http://retail.pelicanbayltd.com/Hot-Rocks\_p\_190.html](http://retail.pelicanbayltd.com/Hot-Rocks_p_190.html) Yes, I have, and yes, it is good. I used it on some sirloins that I purchased as manager specials. They were a bit thinner than I normally want for the grill. I don’t usually like putting anything other than olive oil and fresh garlic on my grillin meats, but this worked out rather well, making the sirloins cook up with a great flavour. Except for smoking briskets, sirloin is the cheapest cow cut I will grill, and the only cut I’ll experiment with. I don’t want to chance ruining a good ultra thick rib eye or porterhouse with something that I may or may not like. However, if I find a good marinade or dry rub that works on the sirloins, I will be tempted to (and sometimes have) use it on the higher end meats. Cheaper cuts than sirloin simply don’t appeal to me at all, regardless of how superior the touted dry rub or marinade is supposed to be. I’ve used Hot Rocks on frozen bagged chicken breasts, too, and it was great. A little lime juice goes on as well. Then, melt some Monterrey jack on top right before pulling them off. Yum. … Cheap - tasty - good. I also like thick cut grilled pork chops. I don’t have to be a gourmet each and every cooking session. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/88 "2010-05-26T16:44:37Z")
For your reading pleasure, I give you these two sandwich related comics: [http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/5/16/how-to-suffer-for-your-beliefs.html](http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/5/16/how-to-suffer-for-your-beliefs.html) > **[How to Agree on a Definition — Basic Instructions](https://www.basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/5/23/how-to-agree-on-a-definition.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/89 "2010-05-26T17:02:42Z")
Look, you people have only yourselves to blame for this. You let them get away with calling just anything a pizza. They called anything spread on flatbread a pizza. You let them get away with it. Then they called anything with tomato sauce and cheese a pizza, no matter what kind of bread it came on – bagels, Italian bread, rolls. And you let them get away with it. So they made “desert pizzas.” Did you let them get away with it? Yes. Yes, you did. Don’t come crying to me when they start selling spaghetti as Pizza Pasta and lasagna as Pizza Casserole. Tell me, consumer, what exactly makes something a chicken wing? Because that’s the part of the chicken it comes from, right? Wings have bones. So, what did you do when they started selling “boneless chicken wings”? You let them get away with it. These aren’t wings, they’re chicken breast tenders pre-dipped in sauce. And while we’re at it, which part of the chicken is the “tenders”? Yes, we know it’s breast meat, so why did they name it after genitals? For the Love of God, where’s the outrage? Well, you let them get away with it. And now they’re pawning off cheeseburgers as “grilled cheese”. That warm treat that your deep lizard brain equates with mothers’ love has been whored out to sell Hardee’s suspiciously dense “burger” patties. You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/90 "2010-05-26T17:48:37Z")
Down at the cafeteria, the grillmaster will make you a cheesesteak sandwich or a chickensteak sandwich. Buh? Chickensteak? That’s annoying. Can I note that they don’t actually use the name “grilled cheese sandwich” for “cheeseburger”? “Grilled cheese whatever thickburger” doesn’t imply that it’s a grilled cheese sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/91 "2010-05-26T18:04:38Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > That’s not a grilled cheese for grownups. [This is](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UIXOn06Pz70/R3FSdGt2PYI/AAAAAAAAAJI/m2FTdStQ9mo/s800/Croque+Monsieur.jpg). I don’t know whether to love you or hate you for that link 🙂 I’m so hungry! (My most hated commercial slogan right now is Wendy’s, and Stouffer’s Lasagne commercials that tout their “real ingredients”) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/92 "2010-05-27T19:48:51Z")
> [@cards](#): > > [http://www.caterwithus.com/](http://www.caterwithus.com/) > > I eat lunch once a week there and the servings are generous and yummy. I’m bumping this thread only to report to **cards** that I went there for lunch today and was quite happy. Good food. ---
**Author:** ![cards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cards)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/93 "2010-05-27T19:56:06Z")
Great Frank, thought you might like it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/94 "2010-05-27T20:20:43Z")
> [@crazyjoe](#): > > For your reading pleasure, I give you these two sandwich related comics: > > [How to Suffer for Your Beliefs — Basic Instructions](http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/5/16/how-to-suffer-for-your-beliefs.html) > > [How to Agree on a Definition — Basic Instructions](http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/5/23/how-to-agree-on-a-definition.html) AWESOME strip! Made it into my bookmarks by the 2nd panel of the first strip I read! Thanks! > [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > Look, you people have only yourselves to blame for this. > > You let them get away with calling just anything a pizza. They called anything spread on flatbread a pizza. You let them get away with it. Then they called anything with tomato sauce and cheese a pizza, no matter what kind of bread it came on – bagels, Italian bread, rolls. And you let them get away with it. So they made “desert pizzas.” Did you let them get away with it? Yes. Yes, you did. Don’t come crying to me when they start selling spaghetti as Pizza Pasta and lasagna as Pizza Casserole. > > Tell me, consumer, what exactly makes something a chicken wing? Because that’s the part of the chicken it comes from, right? Wings have bones. So, what did you do when they started selling “boneless chicken wings”? You let them get away with it. These aren’t wings, they’re chicken breast tenders pre-dipped in sauce. And while we’re at it, which part of the chicken is the “tenders”? Yes, we know it’s breast meat, so why did they name it after genitals? For the Love of God, where’s the outrage? > > Well, you let them get away with it. And now they’re pawning off cheeseburgers as “grilled cheese”. That warm treat that your deep lizard brain equates with mothers’ love has been whored out to sell Hardee’s suspiciously dense “burger” patties. You’re welcome. ^^ And now, if you’ll excuse me I’m gonna get me a [new Pizza Crepe Taco Pancake Chili Bag at Taco Town](http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/taco-town/229053/). ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/95 "2010-05-27T20:42:23Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Okay, I thought I was the only one. > The whole premise is a group goes to a restaurant and one guy wants a cheese sandwich, not a cheeseburger, a cheese sandwich. The joke is that he has to get it from the kids menu and it comes with crayons and a milk making him look dorky. Now, if Hardees was selling a cheese sandwich, it would make sense, but they’re not, they are selling a cheeseburger. I agree with this and the OP. Dishonest advertising\* is \*a good reason not to spend your money with a company. What I don’t get is, if they saw a market (grilled cheese eaters) why not just make a product that fills that market rather than calling your potential customers pussies for not wanting a burger. > [@](#): > > The part that gets me is in the original restaurant where they actually have cheese sandwiches, the other people are eating cheeseburgers! Why didn’t the doofus who apprarently actually wanted a cheeseburger (not a cheese sandwich, which they also had), just order what his friends had? > Yes, when I watch it at home I scream “THEY ALREADY HAVE FUCKING CHEESEBURGERS!!!” Then I notice the kids are in the room, crying, my wife covers her face and runs out of the room screaming “You’re tearing us apart!” You need help!" But I just quietly smirk, knowing that I am right. Thank you for this, I laughed out loud… really. > [@Jenaroph](#): > > It’s noon here. Time to go make a grilled cheese sandwich. It’s always noon somewhere. 😉 And **kidneyfailure** , you’re a pobe. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/96 "2010-05-27T22:10:49Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Has anyone considered that the term ‘grilled cheese’ is itself not fully descriptive of the product you’re all talking about? > > I mean, if you just take cheese and grill it, it melts and drips through the bars. No, no - you get that tasty squeaky Halloumi cheese, which even says on the package that it’s “The Cheese That Grills!” God, that stuff is good. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/97 "2010-05-27T22:16:04Z")
I just made three grilled cheese sammiches for my _children_! I am so going to get flamed… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/98 "2010-05-27T22:34:47Z")
Torching the bread? Sounds like an interesting idea … ---
**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/99 "2010-05-28T03:27:50Z")
Uggg…Hardee’s once was a small Southern franchise burger chain, focusing especially on breakfast biscuits, and decent burgers. Then they were bought out by California burger magnates Carl’s Jr, and, in the past five years, have focused on their audience with their Thickburger ads. Featuring slobs heaving down a big sloppy burger and grunting in response. They really overdid it with the sound effects; I couldn’t figure out who would find it appealing. “Yeah, I want to be a slob!” The current grilled cheese ad is just an extension of that, to show that only real men grunt down their real meat food like a hog, and a grilled cheese is for baby pansy boys. This ad campaign has been stupid for years. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/100 "2010-05-28T12:30:01Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > No, no - you get that tasty squeaky Halloumi cheese, which even says on the package that it’s “The Cheese That Grills!” God, that stuff is good. Seconded. Heaven. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663.md?page=6)