# Your "grilled cheese for grownups" is a hamburger! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663 "2010-05-25T02:50:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/101 "2010-05-28T14:05:34Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Then you missed their Roastburger section (under sandwiches and melts, last item), which includes their: > > Bacon Cheddar RoastBURGER > All-American RoastBURGER > and > Bacon and Bleu RoastBURGER. Technically, they are not claiming that the sandwiches _are_ burgers. They are classic hambuger styles made with sliced roast beef instead of a ground beef patty. Still a little different from advertising a bacon cheeseburger on toast as a “Grilled Cheese for adults”. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/102 "2010-05-28T17:17:49Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > Look, you people have only yourselves to blame for this. > > You let them get away with calling just anything a pizza. They called anything spread on flatbread a pizza. You let them get away with it. Then they called anything with tomato sauce and cheese a pizza, no matter what kind of bread it came on – bagels, Italian bread, rolls. And you let them get away with it. So they made “desert pizzas.” Did you let them get away with it? Yes. Yes, you did. Don’t come crying to me when they start selling spaghetti as Pizza Pasta and lasagna as Pizza Casserole. > > Tell me, consumer, what exactly makes something a chicken wing? Because that’s the part of the chicken it comes from, right? Wings have bones. So, what did you do when they started selling “boneless chicken wings”? You let them get away with it. These aren’t wings, they’re chicken breast tenders pre-dipped in sauce. And while we’re at it, which part of the chicken is the “tenders”? Yes, we know it’s breast meat, so why did they name it after genitals? For the Love of God, where’s the outrage? > > Well, you let them get away with it. And now they’re pawning off cheeseburgers as “grilled cheese”. That warm treat that your deep lizard brain equates with mothers’ love has been whored out to sell Hardee’s suspiciously dense “burger” patties. You’re welcome. Here is the most egregious thing called a [pizza](http://www.walmart.com/ip/Oscar-Mayer-Lunchables-Pepperoni-Flavored-Sausage-Pizza-4.5-oz/10452307) on the mass market.. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/103 "2010-05-28T17:22:07Z")
I had one of these the other day, because I had a coupon and figured I’d try it out. It is cheesier than a typical cheeseburger—so if you called it a cross between a grilled cheese sandwich and a bacon cheeseburger, you wouldn’t be far off. It wasn’t bad, but I probably won’t have one again, since I could find ways of consuming massive amounts of calories and fat that I would enjoy more. It tastes pretty much how you would expect, once you know the ingredients. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Violaceous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Miss\_Violaceous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Violaceous)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/104 "2010-05-28T22:02:06Z")
> [@Harmonious\_Discord](#): > > Here is the most egregious thing called a [pizza](http://www.walmart.com/ip/Oscar-Mayer-Lunchables-Pepperoni-Flavored-Sausage-Pizza-4.5-oz/10452307) on the mass market.. [Negatory.](http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/05/tribe-pizza-hummus-weird-foods-kids.html) ---
**Author:** ![Properties\_of\_Iron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7cd45c/32.png) [@Properties\_of\_Iron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Properties_of_Iron)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/105 "2010-05-28T23:26:40Z")
Are any of y’all in Cleveland? You might want to try out [this](http://www.meltbarandgrilled.com/). It is honestly flat out delicious, but it can take 20 minutes to get a seat. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/106 "2010-05-29T01:35:05Z")
Frank, you are really discounting the “for grownups” part of “grilled cheese for grownups.” I think it’s totally fine for something called a “whatever for whoever” to be different than the ordinary conception of a whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/107 "2010-05-29T06:01:00Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Frank, you are really discounting the “for grownups” part of “grilled cheese for grownups.” I think it’s totally fine for something called a “whatever for whoever” to be different than the ordinary conception of a whatever. Or maybe it’s irony, like saying this is a “message board for smart people.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/108 "2010-05-30T15:38:06Z")
> [@C3](#): > > I sometimes make grilled cheese by dipping one side of the bread in an egg and milk mixture (think french toast) before putting it in the pan. Makes a nice, crusty sandwich. Use Swiss with good amounts of turkey & ham and you’ll get something akin to a Monte Cristo. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/109 "2010-05-31T01:02:51Z")
I just saw a commercial for Mike’s Hard Lemonade–their slogan is “lemonade for grown-ups.” I hope you don’t see that commercial Frank, you’d probably get your panties so bunched you’d be tasting them for a few days. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/110 "2010-05-31T03:11:11Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I just saw a commercial for Mike’s Hard Lemonade–their slogan is “lemonade for grown-ups.” I hope you don’t see that commercial Frank, you’d probably get your panties so bunched you’d be tasting them for a few days. I don’t see why he would. Mike’s Hard Lemonade is still lemonade (i.e, a lemon-flavored beverage) albeit with alcohol (thus the “for grown-ups” part of the ad slogan). Now, if Mike’s Hard Lemonade was basically beer with a tiny bit of lemon-flavoring added (like, for example. [Bud Light Lime](http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/41821)), then the comparison to the Hardees/Carl’s Jr “grilled cheese for grown-ups” ad campaign would be more apt. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/111 "2010-05-31T03:12:11Z")
Grown-ups drink alcohol, and grown-ups eat meat. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/112 "2010-05-31T03:31:19Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Grown-ups drink alcohol, and grown-ups eat meat. And children eat meat too but that’s beside the point of Frank’s complaint. Basically, what Frank’s objecting to is the fact the Hardees/Carl’s Jr ad campaign is taking an apple and trying to pass it off as a orange and than insulting people who like actual oranges as infantile. ---
**Author:** ![InterestedObserver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@InterestedObserver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InterestedObserver)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/113 "2010-05-31T18:32:53Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Assholes! > > The grilled cheese thickburger is, in fact a hamburger with cheese on it. It is not a fucking grilled cheese. I don’t care if you put it on some kind of bullshit bread instead of a bun; it is a hamburger! > > You want to advertise a grilled cheese for grownups, then show me some kind of Texas toast or something, with like three thick pieces of cheddar or something, and make a grilled cheese out of that. > > Somebody who likes grilled cheese is not going to order your bullshit hamburger just because you call it a grilled cheese for grownups! If I ordered a grilled cheese for grownups, and found a 1/2 pound of your cheap ass ground beef stuck in it, you’d need a tire iron to pry it out of your throat. Asshole. > > _pant_ > _pant_ > > I suspect I’ve seen that commercial just once too often. Frank, I got your back, dude. 😃 I completely agree, and not just because I happen to be a vegetarian. Even my daughter, 10, notices that every time she sees that commercial, and comments in disgust, “That is so NOT a grilled cheese!” :dubious:😛 Sure, you CAN put meat on a grilled cheese (I used to put sliced ham on the ones I made my husband) but the commericial shows a guy ordering and eating a grilled cheese kids meal in which there is NO meat, just the typical cheese on grilled bread. THEN, the suggested alternative is a grilled sandwich with a slab o’ beef and cheese. Um, that’s a grilled CHEESEBURGER. :rolleyes: Yeah, it’s annoying, and you are perfectly within your rights to pit about it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![InterestedObserver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@InterestedObserver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InterestedObserver)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/114 "2010-05-31T18:33:56Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > And children eat meat too but that’s beside the point of Frank’s complaint. > > Basically, what Frank’s objecting to is the fact the Hardees/Carl’s Jr ad campaign is taking an apple and trying to pass it off as a orange and than insulting people who like actual oranges as infantile. Nicely put. IMO, a “grilled cheese for grownups” would be a really GOOD grilled cheese, using a mix of excellent cheeses and good bread, prepared and presented well. (like I make at home) as opposed to 2 slabs of white bread with a slice or 2 of American cheese, cooked in margarine. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/115 "2010-05-31T19:11:10Z")
The bulk of this thread is so much hysterical nonsense. In no way is the advertiser misleading or fooling anyone. The commercial is simply employing a Ryle of hyperbolic humor the is likely to appeal to a certain target audience. Indeed, I would guess that a signficant proportion of viewers for whom this isn’t the best kind of humor would still be sufficiently informed by the commercial such that it would increase thrif likelihood of trying the product. ---
**Author:** ![InterestedObserver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@InterestedObserver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InterestedObserver)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/116 "2010-05-31T19:33:30Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > The bulk of this thread is so much hysterical nonsense. In no way is the advertiser misleading or fooling anyone. The commercial is simply employing a Ryle of hyperbolic humor the is likely to appeal to a certain target audience. Indeed, I would guess that a signficant proportion of viewers for whom this isn’t the best kind of humor would still be sufficiently informed by the commercial such that it would increase thrif likelihood of trying the product. Of course, I certainly don’t consider it a case of false advertising, just annoying and incongruent to the point that a 4th grader is annoyed and offended. 😛 Not along the lines of the ads for the home pregnancy test a while back which showed the “happy couple” racing down the stairs in bathrobes to do a pregnancy test…that one crossed the line, imo, by strongly suggesting that doing such a test immediately after sex would provide meaningful results, when in fact, it takes some time for pregnancy to 1. occur 2. be detectable. Sure, maybe the couple had just woken UP and were racing to test to see if the sex they had a few weeks back had resulted in conception…yeah, right. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![luv2draw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/46a35a/32.png) [@luv2draw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luv2draw)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/117 "2010-05-31T21:02:01Z")
I cannot tell you how GREAT a grilled cheese sandwich is when made with one of these things!!! Mmmmmmmmmm… > **[Toas-Tite History](https://toastiterecipes.com/toas-tite-history/)** > > For more on the history and the invention of the Toas-Tite, see Toas-Tite 60th Anniversary: A Bit Of History ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/118 "2010-05-31T22:32:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Has anyone considered that the term ‘grilled cheese’ is itself not fully descriptive of the product you’re all talking about? > > I mean, if you just take cheese and grill it, it melts and drips through the bars. You can do it on a foreman type grill, Not that I would ever throw a few pieces of cheese on mine while it is red hot, wait till they are just short of burned, Then scrape them off and smear them onto a plate wait a minute till they harden into yummy cheese crispys. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/119 "2010-05-31T23:44:00Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Technically, they are not claiming that the sandwiches _are_ burgers. So _calling_ them “burgers” isn’t claiming they _are_ burgers? Swell! I can’t wait to sell my new Meaty Ice Cream Cone: a ground beef patty wrapped in a slice of pepperoni pizza! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663/120 "2010-05-31T23:55:24Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I just saw a commercial for Mike’s Hard Lemonade–their slogan is “lemonade for grown-ups.” I hope you don’t see that commercial Frank, you’d probably get your panties so bunched you’d be tasting them for a few days. Oh boy! Do they have a half pound of ground beef in them? Or are they just, you know, lemonade with liquor in? I can tell the difference between the two; you, obviously, are only trolling. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-grilled-cheese-for-grownups-is-a-hamburger/540663.md?page=7)