# Your "I had'nt thought of that" moment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 1, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656 "2009-04-01T23:49:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/21 "2009-04-03T14:28:01Z")

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I love Ira Levin’s “Rosemary’s Baby” so much that I spent over a year making an annotated version of it. There is so much symbolism and consistancy in it that it’s a wonder Levin got it all right.

About six months after doing this, I looked at the cover of the freaking book and realized: Rosemary’s Baby. Rose–mary’s Baby. :smack: _Mary’s Baby_.

I felt like the village idiot.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/22 "2009-04-03T14:51:27Z")

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Any suggestion by the Beatles that that’s where their name came from? Isn’t there some archival footage of them being asked the question, with the response being along the lines of ‘look, it’s just this word. We could have been called the Shoes’ or something like that.

Not saying they could have been funnin’ with the interviewer, but with the vast amount of writings on them (which makes searching for this answer a bit tedious), is it covered anywhere?

A great source of “ah-ha” moments comes from the Dope – both in threads and just musing over people’s usernames.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/23 "2009-04-03T14:59:37Z")

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Well there – maybe not so hard after all(ish):

> [@](#):
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> **Feb. 10, 1964, Plaza Hotel in New York. Included on THE BEATLES TAPES VOL. II: EARLY BEATLEMANIA 1963-64 CD.**
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> ```
> Ringo: John thought of the name Beatles, and he'll tell you about it now.
> John: It's just that it means Beatles, isn't it, you know? That's just a name, like "shoe."
> Paul: "The Shoes." See, we could've been called "The Shoes," for all you know.
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> ```

The page, [The Beatles: What’s In A Name?](http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/named.htm) seems to give a good rundown of the name’s evolution. Touches on a beat – Beatles and a couple other theories. Good read.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/24 "2009-04-03T15:10:45Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Any suggestion by the Beatles that that’s where their name came from?

Well, what else could it be? It seems obvious they were taking a name of an animal “Beetle” and played with the spelling to come up with the the made up word “Beatle” which has the word “beat” it in suggesting a musical influence.

eta: quote from George,  
George: We were thinking of a name a long time ago, and we were just wracking our brains for names, and John came up with this name Beatles, and it was good, because it was sort of the insect, and also the pun, you know, b-e-a-t on the beat. We just liked the name and we kept it.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/25 "2009-04-03T15:12:40Z")

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Lennon was a huge fan of Buddy Holly and the Crickets and wanted a name that paid tribute to them. He came up with combining “beetle” and “beat.”

And the rest, as they say, is history.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/26 "2009-04-03T15:56:38Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> I love Ira Levin’s “Rosemary’s Baby” so much that I spent over a year making an annotated version of it. There is so much symbolism and consistancy in it that it’s a wonder Levin got it all right.
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> About six months after doing this, I looked at the cover of the freaking book and realized: Rosemary’s Baby. Rose–mary’s Baby. :smack: _Mary’s Baby_.
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> I felt like the village idiot.

Can someone explain this one to me please?

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**Author:** ![ChrisBooth12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@ChrisBooth12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisBooth12)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/27 "2009-04-03T15:56:57Z")

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It didn’t dawn on me until recently the reason why we use the term “ship” to send a package somewhere is because a ship is used…and that must be how the term originated…right?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/28 "2009-04-03T16:02:51Z")

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> [@Tahssa](#):
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> Can someone explain this one to me please?

Mary’s Baby was the Son of God  
Rosemary’s Baby was the Son of Satan

:smack::smack:

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/29 "2009-04-03T16:17:56Z")

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> [@ChrisBooth12](#):
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> It didn’t dawn on me until recently the reason why we use the term “ship” to send a package somewhere is because a ship is used..and that must be how the term originated…right?

I dont know if it is or isn’t but as a kid ordering stuff out of comic books and paying for “shipping and handling” I always pictured my stuff coming from overseas on a huge boat.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/30 "2009-04-03T16:36:06Z")

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> [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](#):
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> **CanvasShoes** never got that “Beatles” was a pun on “beat,” as in a musical beat.

I still call them “Be-a-tles” a la Leo McKern in “Help!”

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/31 "2009-04-03T16:39:23Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Mary’s Baby was the Son of God  
> Rosemary’s Baby was the Son of Satan
> 
> :smack::smack:

Ah. Thank you.

:smack: indeed.

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/32 "2009-04-03T18:05:52Z")

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> [@Telperien](#):
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> It’s camerapeople all the way down!

MPSIMS is no place for a theological debate! Gave me a chuckle though. 😃

I can’t watch anything with surfing in it without imagining a camera-person on a surfboard right alongside.

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/33 "2009-04-03T19:46:02Z")

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> [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](#):
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> I don’t get it. Would you elaborate?

[The Sneeches](http://www.amazon.com/Sneetches-Other-Stories-Dr-Seuss/dp/0394800893/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238787862&sr=1-1) is an allegory of the Haves vs. the HaveNots. But there’s no \*reason \*in the story the HaveNots had to conform to their supposed status. The HaveNots could have had formed their own sports league and had their own parties. But they didn’t. I liked the story until I wondered why the HaveNots didn’t _do something_. Now I view it a bit more ambivalently.

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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/34 "2009-04-03T20:30:22Z")

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> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#):
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> [The Sneeches](http://www.amazon.com/Sneetches-Other-Stories-Dr-Seuss/dp/0394800893/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1238787862&sr=1-1) is an allegory of the Haves vs. the HaveNots. But there’s no \*reason \*in the story the HaveNots had to conform to their supposed status. The HaveNots could have had formed their own sports league and had their own parties. But they didn’t. I liked the story until I wondered why the HaveNots didn’t _do something_. Now I view it a bit more ambivalently.

Well, I always saw that as the point of the book – both the star- and plain- bellied Sneetches were foolish. The plain-bellied Sneetches bought into the same ridiculous distinction that the star-bellied Sneetches were pushing, and so they both ended up giving all their money to the gadget man. A wiser plain-bellied Sneetch would indeed have ignored the stuck-up star-bellies and had her own parties with other wise Sneetches of whatever belly orientation , but it took the Sneetches a while (and all their cash) to gain that wisdom.  
Thanks to Dr. S , we have the chance to learn from their example.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/35 "2009-04-03T22:24:07Z")

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I was picking the junk mail out of the letter box the other day when I started musing that going to all the trouble and expense of designing, printing and delivering these things only to have them immediately thrown away was an incredibly inefficient way of promoting your product: it would be much more cost-effective if you e-mailed the bumf directly to someone’s computer.

Then I thought a little harder and remembered that spam had already been invented.

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/36 "2009-04-04T05:26:00Z")

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The other day it was pointed out to me that the word “arthropod” means “jointed feet”. I felt that I should have pieced that together years ago.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/37 "2009-04-04T09:02:37Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> I never though of putting the apostrophe after the D.

I don’t get this one.

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**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/38 "2009-04-04T11:07:14Z")

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> [@CanvasShoes](#):
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> I don’t get this one.

Reread the thread title.

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**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/39 "2009-04-04T16:18:02Z")

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> [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](#):
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> Reread the thread title.

Yeah, **Xema** ’s comment actually made me laugh out loud, because it took me that second to click.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-i-hadnt-thought-of-that-moment/491656/40 "2009-04-04T16:41:56Z")

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A coming improvement in our services here at the library will allow patrons to make reservations for our internet computers over the internet.

Now, it’s really embarrassing for me to mention that a co-worker had to point out the irony of this to me. So much so that I’ll wait for someone to ask before explaining it, just so I don’t have to feel alone.

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