# Your least favorite Star Wars film **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 19, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350 "2011-08-19T18:30:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/21 "2011-08-19T20:42:33Z")
> [@GargoyleWB](#): > > Nor did it have the 50’s sock-hop rollerskate diner, or the R2D2 Super Mario Brothers platforming level, or the “roll roll roll in zee hay” romance montage. > > I vote “Clones” as the worst of the lot. Yep, those are the scenes that did it for me - especially the last one. And the one where Anakin talks creepily about sand. And the one where Anakin creepily talks about killing all them Sand People. And the one where Anakin creepily bitches about Obi-Wan. And the one where Anakin creepily… oh, you get the point. God, what an odious character. ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/22 "2011-08-19T21:01:36Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > There is nothing redeeming about _The Phantom Menace_. i disagree. it’s a close tie between phantom menace and attack of the clones for my least favorite, but darth maul is awesome, and the three way lightsaber duel between him, obi-wan and qui-gon is great. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/23 "2011-08-19T22:00:20Z")
Quoth **DCnDC** : > [@](#): > > Darth Maul is the most interesting character in the entire prequel trilogy. Darth Maul isn’t a character. He doesn’t even have any lines: He just growls a bit and attacks Jedi. Anyway, I’d say that while all of the prequel movies were flawed, they were definitely learning from their mistakes as they went on. Which leaves _Phantom_ as the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/24 "2011-08-19T22:08:53Z")
_The Phantom Menace_ has a lot of problems, but they could mostly be redeemed by tighter editing: in particular, severely shortening the pod race, and (of course) removing Jar Jar entirely. It’s got some good actions scenes, Ewan MacGregor and Liam Neeson both put in strong performances, and nothing that happens in that movie necessarily damages the original trilogy. It’s a mediocre film that suffered badly from exceptionally high expectations. _Attack of the Clones_ is irredeemable. The strongest actor in the trilogy was killed off in the first film, and while MacGregor still does a good job, he’s not enough to carry it. Hayden Christensen starts the work of entirely destroying the menace and mystique of Darth Vader, in a way Jake Lloyd never could. Even on its own merits, the focus on the relationship between Anakin and Padme simply doesn’t work. There’s absolutely no chemistry between them. And the action sequences are just lame. AotC is really just an incredibly bad movie all around. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/25 "2011-08-19T22:12:51Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > _The Phantom Menace_ has a lot of problems, but they could mostly be redeemed by tighter editing: in particular, severely shortening the pod race, and (of course) removing Jar Jar entirely. It’s got some good actions scenes, Ewan MacGregor and Liam Neeson both put in strong performances, and nothing that happens in that movie necessarily damages the original trilogy. It’s a mediocre film that suffered badly from exceptionally high expectations. Yeah. “The Phantom Edit” showed that, underneath the missteps, there was a reasonably solid (well, acceptably mediocre) film lurking within TPM. No amount of editing could salvage AOTC or ROTS - the shit is just too integral to the plot in those movies. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/26 "2011-08-19T22:15:51Z")
These two posts saved me typing lots more. > [@DCnDC](#): > > What he said. > > I actually didn’t dislike _Phantom Menace_. Sure, Jar Jar was annoying and entirely unnecessary, but I didn’t really mind the kid. I liked that they were back on Tatooine and the pod racing sequence was good. Darth Maul is the most interesting character in the entire prequel trilogy. And **no Hayden Christensen**. > [@Miller](#): > > _The Phantom Menace_ has a lot of problems, but they could mostly be redeemed by tighter editing: in particular, severely shortening the pod race, and (of course) removing Jar Jar entirely. It’s got some good actions scenes, Ewan MacGregor and Liam Neeson both put in strong performances, and nothing that happens in that movie necessarily damages the original trilogy. It’s a mediocre film that suffered badly from exceptionally high expectations. > > _Attack of the Clones_ is irredeemable. The strongest actor in the trilogy was killed off in the first film, and while MacGregor still does a good job, he’s not enough to carry it. Hayden Christensen starts the work of entirely destroying the menace and mystique of Darth Vader, in a way Jake Lloyd never could. Even on its own merits, the focus on the relationship between Anakin and Padme simply doesn’t work. There’s absolutely no chemistry between them. And the action sequences are just lame. AotC is really just an incredibly bad movie all around. AotC is the only one I’ll never rewatch. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/27 "2011-08-19T22:30:37Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Quoth **DCnDC** :Darth Maul isn’t a character. He doesn’t even have any lines: He just growls a bit and attacks Jedi. He has 3 lines: > [@Darth Maul](#): > > “Tatooine is sparsely populated. If the trace was correct, I will find them quickly, Master.” > > “At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge.” > > “Yes, my Master.” ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/28 "2011-08-19T22:35:58Z")
Least favorite? _The Star War Xmas Special._ Stoned Leia. Wookie Yule. Bea Arthur as an alien. ORG. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/29 "2011-08-19T22:37:45Z")
It was tough to choose, but I had to go with _Revenge of the Sith_. The fall of Anakin Skywalker was just done so horribly that it made the film irredeemable. Hayden Christensen was bad enough, especially on top of Lucas’ ham-handed writing and directing. I have to always put that movie out of my mind when watching the original trilogy, because Darth Vader should not be a comic character (and I wish I could re-insert Sebastian Shaw\* back into my DVD. This is one VHS that I will forever keep). \*We comic geeks (my friends and I) got the biggest kick out of that name when we first noticed it. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/30 "2011-08-19T22:48:09Z")
I haven’t voted yet, because I don’t remember the name of the one that had the cartoons battling the toys. Also, I haven’t seen all of them. I saw the original and thought it was okay as that sort of movie goes, but I was not, and am not, a fan of the subgenre. I preferred the _Star Trek_ movies and _Alien_ and its sequels. Whichever one had Jarjar Binks (unless that’s the same one as the one I already mentioned) would be second least favorite. If I knew the names, I’d vote, but I hate to go searching IMDb for that. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/31 "2011-08-19T22:50:52Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > I actually didn’t dislike _Phantom Menace_. Sure, Jar Jar was annoying and entirely unnecessary, but I didn’t really mind the kid. I liked that they were back on Tatooine and the pod racing sequence was good. Darth Maul is the most interesting character in the entire prequel trilogy. And **no Hayden Christensen**. Two words: Midi. Chlorians. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/32 "2011-08-20T00:03:42Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > …nothing that happens in that movie necessarily damages the original trilogy. I hated the compression of history of the whole prequel set. The whole big bad Empire is only one short generation old? Pffft. The original movie implied an _epic_ backstory. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/33 "2011-08-20T07:22:26Z")
Didn’t AotC have the sand monologue? Yup, it’s the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/34 "2011-08-20T08:47:21Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > It was tough to choose, but I had to go with _Revenge of the Sith_. The fall of Anakin Skywalker was just done so horribly that it made the film irredeemable. Hayden Christensen was bad enough, especially on top of Lucas’ ham-handed writing and directing. This, He goes too quickly from reluctantly accepting Palpantine’s tutledge to casually slaughtering children who look up to him. Return of the Jedi was a hodgepog of different scenes that didn’t mesh well together and the ewoks were just terrible. It had some quoteunquote cool things but they were just a rehash of A new hope and ESB. I really don’t understand why the Phantom menace gets so much hate, I think it was the second best of them after ESB. ---
**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/35 "2011-08-20T10:00:59Z")
> [@Namkcalb](#): > > I really don’t understand why the Phantom menace gets so much hate, I think it was the second best of them after ESB. If you truly don’t but would care to find out, you need to watch the Mr. Plinkett Episode I review on YouTube. Behind all the questionable humor is one of the greatest analyses of filmmaking I know. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/36 "2011-08-20T10:18:58Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > I hated the compression of history of the whole prequel set. The whole big bad Empire is only one short generation old? Pffft. The original movie implied an _epic_ backstory. Yeah, that was a strange decision. > [@Namkcalb](#): > > This, He goes too quickly from reluctantly accepting Palpantine’s tutledge to casually slaughtering children who look up to him. > > Return of the Jedi was a hodgepog of different scenes that didn’t mesh well together and the ewoks were just terrible. It had some quoteunquote cool things but they were just a rehash of A new hope and ESB. > > I really don’t understand why the Phantom menace gets so much hate, I think it was the second best of them after ESB. Because it was such a huge disappointment to many fans who’d invested so much of themselves in the original trilogy. People queued for days to see it. ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/37 "2011-08-20T11:34:00Z")
> [@Pitchmeister](#): > > If you truly don’t but would care to find out, you need to watch the Mr. Plinkett Episode I review on YouTube. Behind all the questionable humor is one of the greatest analyses of filmmaking I know. I second this. I have watched these reviews maybe 3-4 times each. They’re awesome. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/38 "2011-08-20T14:08:18Z")
AoTC was badly edited. In TPM they kept in a lot of the stuff that should have been left out. In AoTC they did the opposite, left out too much. There are deleted scenes with Anakin and Amidala at the latter house and if they had been left in; it could have been a better movie; at least you had a better reason then for “romance” the rolling in hay. AoTC did have the battle scene. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/39 "2011-08-20T14:39:02Z")
Okay, I’ll check the review out. I haven’t seen the deleted scenes of AoTCs, what I do know however, is it’ll be a lot better if they took the factory scene out. It seems the only purpose it served was to sell videogames. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350/40 "2011-08-20T14:56:27Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > I hated the compression of history of the whole prequel set. The whole big bad Empire is only one short generation old? Pffft. The original movie implied an _epic_ backstory. No it didn’t. The Senate was still functional even in A New Hope. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-least-favorite-star-wars-film/593350.md?page=3)