# Your Majesty you and all your subjects go and fuck yourselves

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 12, 2002, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-majesty-you-and-all-your-subjects-go-and-fuck-yourselves/103240 "2002-04-12T14:46:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-majesty-you-and-all-your-subjects-go-and-fuck-yourselves/103240/141 "2002-04-19T14:01:44Z")

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Neither are other lots of other members of the British Lions Rugby Union team.

British Lions = players from the British Isles, which includes Ireland. It’s not a very politic name, but it is the one that is used.

pan

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-majesty-you-and-all-your-subjects-go-and-fuck-yourselves/103240/142 "2002-04-19T15:37:03Z")

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I now declare this thread flezz.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-majesty-you-and-all-your-subjects-go-and-fuck-yourselves/103240/143 "2002-04-19T16:47:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by kabbes \*  
> \*\*Neither are other lots of other members of the British Lions Rugby Union team.
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> British Lions = players from the British Isles, which includes Ireland. It’s not a very politic name, but it is the one that is used.
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> pan \*\*

Are they not accepting French players on the rugby team too? If France now in the British Isles?

😉

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-majesty-you-and-all-your-subjects-go-and-fuck-yourselves/103240/144 "2002-04-19T16:52:49Z")

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No, that would be the Bar-bars, **Twisty**.

Barbarians includes England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, NI, France  
British Lions includes England, Ireland, Wales, Scotland NI.

And as I say, the British Lions are called the British Lions because it is the team of the British Isles.

Before you complain too loudly, remember that the “Ireland” team includes NI - presumably via similar logic.

pan

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-majesty-you-and-all-your-subjects-go-and-fuck-yourselves/103240/145 "2002-04-19T17:26:31Z")

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Fair enough. I thought the name had been changed to “The Lions”.

I’ve no problem with the geographical term the British Isles and including Ireland in it.

BTW there is only 1 Irish team which is a combined Rep. and NI team. They even sing two songs before the games. The Irish anthem and a song called Irelands call. I think they should just sing one an I couldn’t give a shit which one I just think that 2 is OTT

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2002, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-majesty-you-and-all-your-subjects-go-and-fuck-yourselves/103240/146 "2002-04-19T21:23:47Z")

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What? The Dutch are left out of the Barbarians??

It’s _discrimination_, I say!

Feh. Just because we lost our last rugby match vs. England 100 to 0 doesn’t mean we suck! 🙂

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-majesty-you-and-all-your-subjects-go-and-fuck-yourselves/103240/147 "2002-04-22T09:26:34Z")

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Actually, **Coldie** , yest it does 😃

And **yojimbo** - I knew that, that’s why I brought it up! I just wanted to show **Twisty** that in the weird world of rugby union the usual divisions and borders seem to not matter as much as the desire to create a team that might occasionally give the Wallabies a run for their money.

Once a decade would be nice.

pan

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2002, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-majesty-you-and-all-your-subjects-go-and-fuck-yourselves/103240/148 "2002-04-22T10:34:20Z")

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I thought they had stopped calling them the British Lions, except when they won a match!! 😉

I’m sure I read somewhere that there is a french player in the current lions squad…

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