# Your music group personnel misconceptions? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 21, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825 "2017-07-21T19:16:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/121 "2018-11-03T03:13:20Z")
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Hall and Oates became Brooks and Dunn after country became cool, then resurfaced as Hall and Oates after they retired. Seriously, has anybody ever seen the four of them at once? 😕 > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > The _Belly_ song? Maybe. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/122 "2018-11-03T06:35:20Z")
I wasn’t sure if Meatloaf had taken over vocal duties with Van Halen at some later point but it could have been Diamond Dave - I’m pretty dazed about that kind of thing. Speaking of dazed - when I was four, in what was one of the few complete family memories I have, of all six of us, sitting around the living room, after dinner and most likely before some cocktail party parental absconding, I’m sitting on the pipe-smoking lawyer dad’s lap, and we’re all listening to the new album the older bro brought home by this hot new band called Led Zeppelin. I’m pretty sure the Dazed solo was blazing as the album cover finally made its way to me, and upon seeing Jimmy on the bottom left (on back cover), I expressed surprise to dad that there’s a woman in such a noisy band like this. After he informed me it was a guy with long hair, I immediately protested that there’s no way it could possibly be a guy, looking like that, and, between puffs on the pipe, dad calmly insisted the case, as I started reacting on a more tantrum-y level. I looked at Plant and wondered if he was the mother of the band, but at least on further inspection, without any help, I was able to peg him for a dude. ---
**Author:** ![GWF\_Hefel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/898d66/32.png) [@GWF\_Hefel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GWF_Hefel)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/123 "2018-11-03T11:04:25Z")
One summer night in 1977, I closed up the bookstore I was working at to find a fleet of large convertibles parading down Main Street in Annapolis noisily proclaiming the death of Elvis. I was surprised that so many would care about the death of Elvis Costello–who I thought had died way too young. :smack: My only defense is that I mostly grew up outside the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/124 "2018-11-03T11:40:00Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > The Eagles’ “Desperado” is about Jackson Browne. Do you have a cite for this? I have never heard such a claim, and Wikipedia also disagrees: > [@](#): > > Desperado was based on a song he started in 1968, written in the style of old songs by Stephen Foster.[3] The song was originally about a friend named Leo and began with “Leo, my God, why don’t you come to your senses…”[4] In 1972, after they had recorded their first album Eagles in London, Glenn Frey and Henley decided that they should write songs together.[5] In their first songwriting session after returning from London, Henley played Frey the unfinished version of the song, and said: “When I play it and sing it, I think of Ray Charles and Stephen Foster. It’s really a Southern Gothic thing, but we can easily make it more Western.”[4] According to Henley, Frey “leapt right on it – filled in the blanks and brought structure”, and the song became “Desperado”. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/125 "2018-11-03T15:58:09Z")
I was taken with Helplessly Hoping the first time I heard it. I asked my girlfriend who did it and she told me it was Santana. I believed her for 2 whole weeks. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/126 "2018-11-03T16:05:39Z")
When I learned a few years ago that _Sneakin Sally Through the Alley_ was by Robert Palmer, I thought “Interesting; there are two musicians named Robert Palmer”. His later work is so different it didn’t even occur to me that it was the same guy. I only learned the truth within the last year. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/127 "2018-11-03T16:47:22Z")
Id has just reminded me. For decades I thought that Meatloaf was just a stage name of Jim Steinman. j ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/128 "2018-11-03T18:35:26Z")
I found out only recently that there is more than one Bruce Dickinson—one that produced Don’t Fear the Reaper, and the other guy—the lead singer of Iron Maiden. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/129 "2018-11-03T18:59:54Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I found out only recently that there is more than one Bruce Dickinson—one that produced Don’t Fear the Reaper, and the other guy—the lead singer of Iron Maiden. Nope, you have that wrong. There is only one Bruce Dickinson. The other is The Bruce Dickinson. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/130 "2018-11-03T19:09:50Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Nope, you have that wrong. There is only one Bruce Dickinson. The other is The Bruce Dickinson. Gotta have more cowbell! ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/131 "2018-11-03T22:56:11Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > [A girl Like You](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYFz4pKclyA) sure has a Bowie feel to it. > > The _Belly_ song? Sonny Bono died when he ran into a tree while skiing. I would have sworn up and down that Led Zepplin rebranded themselves as Def Leppard. Just based on the way the bands’ names appear similar to look at. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/132 "2018-11-03T23:14:39Z")
Speaking of Tenacious D, when I first saw them on MTV I thought “wow, I’ve never heard of this band but somehow they must already be rich – how else did they get a famous actor to star in their music video?”. It took me a while to figure out that Jack Black was actually the singer and not just an actor in the video. ---
**Author:** ![LLCoolL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/llcooll/32/3596_2.png) [@LLCoolL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LLCoolL)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/133 "2018-11-04T08:50:08Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > I was taken with Helplessly Hoping the first time I heard it. I asked my girlfriend who did it and she told me it was Santana. I believed her for 2 whole weeks. Yeah, lots of people forget about Santana’s short-lived, ill-conceived folk rock stage. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/134 "2018-11-04T12:04:47Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I found out only recently that there is more than one Bruce Dickinson—one that produced Don’t Fear the Reaper, and the other guy—the lead singer of Iron Maiden. Bruce Dickinson - “The” or otherwise - didn’t produce Don’t Fear The Reaper. A guy called Bruce Dickinson was involved with the reissue so his name was on the sleeve notes; the SNL guys read that and used his name for the sketch. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/135 "2018-11-04T12:59:33Z")
For fairly obvious reasons, I used to think Bob Geldof was in Pink Floyd. I, um, also used to think that Kanye West and Cornel West were the same person, but that’s less excusable. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/136 "2018-11-04T16:34:01Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > For fairly obvious reasons, I used to think Bob Geldof was in Pink Floyd. > > I, um, also used to think that Kanye West and Cornel West were the same person, but that’s less excusable. And there were both long lost sons of Adam West. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/137 "2018-11-04T16:54:31Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > And there were both long lost sons of Adam West. and Mae West? ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825/138 "2018-11-04T18:05:09Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > And I used to asssume that the Brooks of Brooks & Dunn was Garth Brooks. I can’t imagine who I supposed Dunn was. There was a female country singer out at that time named [Holly Dunn,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q_E6pUwySg) and the first time I heard the name “Brooks & Dunn”, like you I assumed the “Brooks” was Garth, and that he’d done a collaboration with Holly Dunn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-music-group-personnel-misconceptions/791825.md?page=6)