# Your National Dish Of Shame **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [May 20, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784 "2022-05-20T19:31:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/302 "2022-05-26T10:27:09Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Don’t forget to have some garlic wine with the garlic ice cream. No, I’m not kidding. BTDT. We had one day in San Francisco a couple years ago. Had I known, we would have gone. I’ve probably posted this elsewhere but… > A Turkish legend says that when Satan left the Garden of Eden after the Fall, onions grew from the spot where he set his right foot and garlic from where he set his left foot. Following Satan, I’m going to discuss onions and garlic together, as if they were just two different footprints of the same fallen angel, since they have many of the same active ingredients. > **[Eating Satan's footprints](https://www.salon.com/1999/10/29/onions/)** > > What can the onion and garlic diet do for you? > Ask, rather, what you can do for Macedonia. Interesting read. I’m still waiting for someone to post about lutefisk, casu marzu…and I was watching a reality program where Alaskans buried a seal flipper, let it start rotting and then made a soup or stew from it. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/303 "2022-05-26T11:34:04Z")
> [@alovem](#): > > That sounds more like one of the many variations of [cabbage rolls](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_roll), specifically the Romanian dish sarmale. Haven’t tried making it yet, although it’s been among my recipes for years. Stuffed cabbage, filled with ground beef and rice and cooked in tomato sauce, is a staple here in Israel, and is usually delicious. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/304 "2022-05-26T11:50:48Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > Since we have to start somewhere, I’ll open with the **corn dog**. Oh, Lord, yes! 😳 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/305 "2022-05-26T11:51:18Z")
Big throughout Eastern Europe as well. In Polish, they’re gołąbki, sometimes rendered as galumpki or a variant thereof in Engliah. I have heard of them referred to as “pigs in a blanket” in some circles here in the US. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/306 "2022-05-26T11:52:08Z")
Of course the Greeks have their dolmates which are the same basic meat+rice+spices idea but wrapped in spinach leaves. Some are boiled into nothingness, others are fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/307 "2022-05-26T11:53:45Z")
I’ve usually had those wrapped in grape leaves. And then the Turks have a version of that too—there’s a continuum of variations on this dish throughout that area. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/308 "2022-05-26T11:54:15Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Of course the Greeks have their dolmates which are the same basic meat+rice+spices idea but wrapped in spinach leaves. Don’t you mean grape leaves? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/309 "2022-05-26T12:06:58Z")
I am sure somone at a state fair somwhere has taken an already cooked corn dog, dipped it in beer batter, and re-deep fried it. You cant have too much crunchy goodness. I’ll nominate a couple more. Caramel apples: I get that apples and caramel can be a good combo, if you have a sweet tooth. But they’re not only dipping perfectly good apples in caramel, but now drizzled chocolate, marshmallows and vanilla frosting is being added to make a sickly sweet “treat”. Has anyone here yet mentioned turducken? An abomination, and also deep fried. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/310 "2022-05-26T12:09:38Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Has anyone here yet mentioned turducken? An abomination, and also deep fried. Lord, all I see is TURD-ducken. I think I’m going to be ill. 🤢 ---
**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/311 "2022-05-26T12:12:55Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Caramel apples I know there’s not so much difference, but I consider candy apples (that red sugar coating) to be far worse that the caramel apples. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/312 "2022-05-26T13:22:56Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Has anyone here yet mentioned turducken? An abomination, and also deep fried. Deep-fried, it would be an abomination. It is supposed to be baked. The grease from the duck bastes the chicken and the turkey, and all three come out with excellent flavor and texture. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/313 "2022-05-26T15:22:36Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I’ve usually had those wrapped in grape leaves. And then the Turks have a version of that too—there’s a continuum of variations on this dish throughout that area. > [@Alessan](#): > > Don’t you mean grape leaves? D’oh!! 😧 😧 Of course I mean grape leaves. Thank you both! ---
**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/314 "2022-05-26T16:26:09Z")
Sounds like cabbage rolls to me. But my mom cooked them in marinara so they were pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/315 "2022-05-26T17:05:19Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > Where was this, it doesn’t sound like any UK version, which are typically baked in an oven alongside turkey at christmas. North East US, Maine specifically. > [@alovem](#): > > That sounds more like one of the many variations of [cabbage rolls](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_roll), The ingredients are about the same, but the big difference was it was overboiled and served in a bowl as soup. Everything was loose and had zero flavor. > [@pulykamell](#): > > I have heard of them referred to as “pigs in a blanket” in some circles here in the US. Pigs in a blanket is actually right, not pig in a blanket. > [@medstar](#): > > Sounds like cabbage rolls to me. But my mom cooked them in marinara so they were pretty good. Yeah, that sounds good. It was the whole " boil until everything comes apart and eat it as soup" that made this so bad. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/316 "2022-05-26T17:30:35Z")
Yeah, the versions I know are not supposed to be eaten as soup. ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/317 "2022-05-26T17:43:26Z")
Sounds good! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/318 "2022-05-26T17:52:44Z")
I’ve switched to making “deconstructed” stuffed cabbage which is more of a stoup. It also freezes well. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/319 "2022-05-26T17:55:04Z")
I don’t think Americans have any reason to be ashamed of corn dogs once Koreans decided what they really needed was [Fruity Pebbles](https://www.google.com/search?q=korean+corn+dog+fruity+pebbles&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS810US810&hl=en&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ALiCzsbEiGoO4APP3MWAnWc-pVOFVP6DSQ:1653587559526&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiXgdzY3f33AhW_mnIEHRUpBCIQ_AUIlgMoAQ&biw=1920&bih=937&dpr=1). ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/320 "2022-05-26T18:11:41Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Oh, yeah: Pronto pups (corn dogs) are delicious so long as they’re (a) made fresh with masa flour and 100% beef weiners, (b) fried in fresh oil (I prefer lard, actually), (c) **slathered with French’s yellow mustard** , and (d) eaten hot! > > The packaged ones found in supermarket freezers and intended to be microwaved are abominations. Yeccch! 🤮 You had me right there with you til that slathered part. If we do a National Condiment of Shame spinoff; that’ll be my nominee…neon yellow & no flavor. Honey, dijon, deli/brown; yes, please but just not that yellow shit. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/321 "2022-05-26T18:34:40Z")
For fair and ballpark food, it’s perfect, IMHO. I actually like yellow mustards, along with the brown, whole grain, and stoneground varieties. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784.md?page=17)