# Your National Dish Of Shame **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [May 20, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784 "2022-05-20T19:31:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/342 "2022-05-27T03:13:01Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > Last year for a BBQ I tried out wrapping stuff in the fig leaves from the tree in my front garden. Careful, I heard that [God does not want you wrapping your stuff in fig leaves from the tree in the garden](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%203:6-8&version=NRSVCE). šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/343 "2022-05-27T03:19:29Z")
> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#): > > I know thereā€™s not so much difference, but I consider candy apples (that red sugar coating) to be far worse that the caramel apples. Oh gawd yes. But booth are a boon to dentists. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/344 "2022-05-27T09:45:19Z")
Thereā€™s good and bad. You can certainly get crappy normal sliced bread here. but itā€™s usually better than the version of sliced bread youā€™d get in Belgium and Germany. However, they do things completely different there, the baguettes in Belgium are wonderful, are freshly baked, but do not last long, so you buy them and use them immediately. They turn into baseball bats overnight. Germany has bread shops EVERYWHERE and sell all sorts of stuff (weirdly I never tried their product, I wasnā€™t eating bread much when I lived there, and, erm, kebab shops got my custom). UK bread is by no means perfection, itā€™s stuffed to the gills with salt and preservative, and probably uses hybrid grain for quick proving, so it probably barely resembles bread of thirty years ago at all. However, it can be really nice, some of them. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/345 "2022-05-27T15:33:50Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > Some older working-class households over here still reminisce lovingly about dripping on toast, One of the weekend lunch staples when I was a kid was ā€˜gravy breadā€™ - left over brown gravy (usually beef) on plain white bread. As kids, we thought it was the bomb. > [@Alessan](#): > > Stuffed cabbage, filled with ground beef and rice and cooked in tomato sauce, is a staple here in Israel, and is usually delicious. > [@pulykamell](#): > > Big throughout Eastern Europe as well. In Polish, theyā€™re gołąbki, sometimes rendered as galumpki or a variant thereof in Engliah. I have heard of them referred to as ā€œpigs in a blanketā€ in some circles here in the US. My Slovak mother-in-law taught my wife to make these (I always assumed it was spelled ā€œhalufkiā€) - when the first Hispanic families moved into the neighborhood MIL switched out whatever tomato product sheā€™d been using for a red enchilada sauce to marvelous effect. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/346 "2022-05-27T19:51:19Z")
> [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > Cthurkey, anyone? You totally with the thread with that one! _Tres_ awesome. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/347 "2022-05-27T21:06:27Z")
Iā€™ve had the garlic ice cream and itā€™s quite lovely. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/348 "2022-05-27T22:07:00Z")
The ā€œshamefulā€ Israeli foods I can think of arenā€™t bad, just weird fusions between very different cultures. Stuff like kibbeh in borscht, or chicken-breast schnitzel with fries and hummus in a baguette. Weird, but yummy. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/349 "2022-05-27T22:09:14Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > (I always assumed it was spelled ā€œhalufkiā€) In Slovak, itā€™s _halupki_. In Hungarian, itā€™s _tƶltƶtt kĆ”poszta_. In Ukrainian, itā€™s _holubtsi_. In Russian, _galubtsi_. (Transliterated on the last two.) Germans have _kohlrouladen_. South Slavs usually something like _sarma_. Theyā€™re everywhere in that area. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/350 "2022-05-27T22:33:08Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > chicken-breast schnitzel with fries and hummus in a baguette. Weird, but yummy. That _does_ sound yummy! ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/351 "2022-05-27T22:34:31Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > chicken-breast schnitzel Aldi sells itā€¦maybe only occasionally though. > **[Deutsche KĆ¼che Chicken Schnitzel | ALDI REVIEWER](https://www.aldireviewer.com/deutsche-kuche-chicken-schnitzel/)** > > EDITORā€™S NOTE: Read our roundup post of German products in the Deutsche KĆ¼che line at Aldi here.Ā  Aldi is a grocery store that originated in Germany, and its European roots show in some of the everyday favorites it sells, such... Continue... ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/352 "2022-05-27T22:43:26Z")
> [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > Aldi sells itā€¦maybe only occasionally though. > > [Deutsche KĆ¼che Chicken Schnitzel | ALDI REVIEWER](https://www.aldireviewer.com/deutsche-kuche-chicken-schnitzel/) Chicken (or turkey) schnitzel is THE Israeli protein. McDonaldā€™s here even has the McShnitzel, which isnā€™t half bad. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/353 "2022-05-28T00:47:58Z")
Re: Pigs in a blanket. Did no one else grow up with that meaning, Hot dog - split open Appropriately sized slice of cheddar cheese Spoonful of Heinz chili sauce Wrap it all in bacon Under the broiler until the bacon is crispy ??? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/354 "2022-05-28T04:00:48Z")
No. Pig in a Blanket is a hot dog wrapped in some kind of dough or pastry. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/355 "2022-05-28T04:08:24Z")
No. Pigs in the blanket has at least three meanings: 1. What you said 2. Breakfast links rolled up in pancakes (this is what I grew up with knowing as the term) 3. Stuffed cabbage rolls What **crowmanyclouds** describes sounds a bit like what I would call a francheezie, though we put it on a bun. Wikipedia tells me this is a Chicago term, though ā€“ I had thought it was more widely known than that, but apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/356 "2022-05-28T06:44:15Z")
No. A full-size hot dog? Never. Itā€™s a cocktail sausage, such as lilā€™ smokies, wrapped in pastry dough (and perhaps those other things too, but Iā€™ve never heard of them). ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/357 "2022-05-28T06:48:44Z")
Wikipedia says thatā€™s called a ā€œfrancheezieā€ and/or ā€œTexas Tommyā€. > **[Danger dog | Francheezie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_dog#Francheezie)** > > In Chicago, there is a variation of the danger dog called the francheezie. This is an all-beef hot dog wrapped in bacon and deep fried, with melted Cheddar or American cheese (or Velveeta). Usually the hot dog is split and filled with cheese before being deep fried. Alternatively, the cheese may be added as a topping after frying. The francheezie is served on a bun. It is typically sold by restaurants rather than street vendors. > 1. > > > A francheezie, with cole slaw and a potato pancake > > > ... > **[Texas Tommy (food)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Tommy_(food))** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > The Texas Tommy is an American hot dog dish in which a hot dog is prepared with bacon and cheese. Despite the name, it was invented in Pottstown, Pennsylvania, in the 1950s. It may be cooked by various methods, such as grilling and deep frying, and some variations exist. The Texas Tommy is a common dish in Philadelphia, the Delaware Valley, and South Jersey, and it is a menu item at various restaurants and hot dog restaurants in the United States.... ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/358 "2022-05-28T06:58:02Z")
This nails it, _The Texas Tommy is a common dish in Philadelphia, the Delaware Valley, and South **Jersey** ,_ Central, New Jersey her entire life. _in the 1950s and was a popular dish among 1950s housewives._ My mother grew up eating them but somehow didnā€™t call them by their correct name either. Why my grandmother called them ā€œPigs in a Blanketā€ is now a mystery that only the dead can explain. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/359 "2022-05-28T08:23:15Z")
Hot dogs wrapped in bacon and cooked on a grill are commonly sold as street food in Russia. They can be on a stick or served in a bun with mayo and usually topped with those canned fried onion crisps. These lunch stands may be owned an operated by Russians, but they originated in Denmark, I thinkā€”I canā€™t recall the name the name of the company right offhand. Has anybody ever heard of hot dog sauce? Iā€™m not talking here about things like chili or roast onion relishā€”I mean actual hot dogs ground in a food processor and used to top other things. I once stumbled upon several recipes on YouTube while I was looking for Coney Island chili, but I canā€™t find them now. It looked ghastly to me, but heyā€”what do I know about food? IIRC, the videos mentioned it was a Southern or Southwestern thing, maybe served on the street and at State Fairs. I had never heard of it before. ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/360 "2022-05-28T10:36:12Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > No. A full-size hot dog? Never. Itā€™s a cocktail sausage, such as lilā€™ smokies, wrapped in pastry dough (and perhaps those other things too, but Iā€™ve never heard of them). Yeah, thatā€™s the only kind Iā€™d ever known about until I checked the Wikipedia entry linked upthread. I donā€™t really consider pigs in blankets, in any form, to be shameful or even gross, just a little too close to being full-blown junk food. Even classic hot dogs give me pause, unless theyā€™re made Chicago style, with all the ā€œsaladā€ up top. Even then, itā€™s just a hankering that Iā€™ll get once or twice a year, and Iā€™m not proud of it. šŸ˜„ What I **do** find shameful and disgusting are faux hot dogs (which Iā€™m guessing many of us have eaten more than once, making it a national dish, IMO) made with cheap franfurters and white bread and topped with fake cheese (individually plastic-wrapped slices) and ketchup. Extra points (and sympathy) if you had to eat it uncooked/cold. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/361 "2022-05-28T14:36:42Z")
Never heard of such a sauce. Sounds revolting. The Los Angeles Danger Dog may be unique in that it includes mayo. > **[Danger Dogs: The Secret History of LA's Favorite Street Food](https://www.thrillist.com/eat/los-angeles/history-of-los-angeles-danger-dogs)** > > What do they have to do with Ohio?? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784.md?page=19)