# Your National Dish Of Shame **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [May 20, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784 "2022-05-20T19:31:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/121 "2022-05-22T05:42:19Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > > [@EastUmpqua](#): > > > > For the US (at least where I live) I would like to submit corn on the cob. With as much butter, salt and pepper as you can make stick to it. Preferably slightly burned. > > I am scratching my head trying to figure out what is in any way shameful about this. Fresh and properly cooked American corn on the cob is a divine gift from the loving hands of Chicomecóatl (Aztec maize goddess) herself. Yes, I too am confused… ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/122 "2022-05-22T05:58:26Z")
> [@EastUmpqua](#): > > For the US (at least where I live) I would like to submit corn on the cob. With as much butter, salt and pepper as you can make stick to it. Preferably slightly burned. 🤨 What is supposed to be “shameful” about corn on the cob? ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/123 "2022-05-22T07:20:40Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > The name “Hawai’i,” however, IS in the Hawaiian language, so it needs to be spelled correctly according to the rules of 'ōlelo Hawai’i Trust me, Hawaii is fine in English. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/124 "2022-05-22T09:57:53Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > For Japan, I nominate beef curry. … It rarely looks as appealing as the high-end version shown above at the top of the Wikipedia page. My presentation isn’t quite as nice as the first picture on Wikipedia, but I’ve never had it come out as… gelatinous-looking at your linked picture: [![](https://i.ibb.co/JzmLkdb/image.png) ](https://i.ibb.co/JzmLkdb/image.png) I dunno, it’s easy to make and pretty tasty. Golden Curry “Extra Hot” still is nowhere close to “hot”, but it’s by no means bland. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/125 "2022-05-22T10:59:08Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > I’m English, and I’ll offer as my national dish of shame The Full English Breakfast (particularly the version that comes with baked beans). It’s way too much for any meal, let alone breakfast. It’s full of fat/grease. It features baked beans in the morning. I’m American, but my mother (RIP) was a WWII English War Bride. _Mum_ was an excellent cook (English/excellent cook = oxymoron…I know that old trope isn’t fair or accurate) and made many dishes that she proudly claimed were of English origin (Sheppard’s Pie, Steak & Kidney Pie, Bangers & Mash, Fish & Chips etc.). She also made the _Full English Breakfast_ many times (sometimes for dinner), complete with baked beans. But she called it a Mixed Grill and _never_ claimed it was English. I learned much later what it was _really_ called. I guess she was too ashamed of the dish to call it English. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/126 "2022-05-22T13:13:53Z")
Any drink made with Clamato is, for me, too nasty to be worth the trouble. I do not understand its popularity. Everyone likes fries, though. They are improved by fresh cheese curds and good gravy. The former is important, delicious and far, far better than what usually gets added. Smoked meat or bacon adds flavour and crunch. It is overwhelming, too many calories to eat often, better consumed when drinking with friends. It is delicious when properly made. It rarely is, outside of Quebec. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/127 "2022-05-22T13:44:22Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I had that in Britain, and it’s a lovely bit of comfort food, I must say. No, it’s only vaguely related to actually curry dishes, but I do crave it from time to time. I’ll have to look me up a recipe. It’s like the curry chips you’ll find at Irish pubs (at least here in the US). Not really “curry” but quite nice in their own right. I’ve lived in Britain all my life and I’ve never heard of this “British Curry Pub”. Perhaps it was a long time ago. Someone else mention Vesta curry, and that was the horrible horrible stuff including raisons and apple in it, that you could buy in the 70s. At one point it was the only real experience brits had of curry until the Indian restaurants spread out around the regions. It was foul. It also was the type of curry you’d get in school canteen and work’s canteens. Until real curry made it much wider. I’d term it “Army Curry” now, they served the worst grade meat in the most horrible sauce and filled it out with sweet crap to divert you from how bad it was. It made it worse. Curry isn’t a simple thing in the UK, indeed, it’s another thing of variation. Chip shop curry sauce is probably what is served in Irish pubs too. It’s based around a bland Chinese curry, which is largely a bland curry with some five spice thrown in it. It was the main curry of the UK for a while, and while you can get really nice Chinese Currys in the takeaways in the UK, the chip shop version was set in stone when the quality was really bad. The closest I’d say that was would be a Japanese Curry, which is basically salted yellow stuff. But given the empire, and the army taking its food with it, the Curry spread from India to places which never had it before, so Indonesian, Thai and other such places have a version, possibly which predates the empire, possibly dragged along. Throw in a Currywurst (basically a salty sausage) in Germany/Belgian and foul abomination which is “curry sauce” in Belgium (yellow food colouring and flour and water) it’s a word which has spread and changed across the world. Don’t assume all curry is Indian/Pakistani, and certainly don’t assume they’re all good. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/128 "2022-05-22T13:48:47Z")
> [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > Continuing the nationality, has anybody tried Buckfast? Apparently it creates anarchy. Some NSFW language possibly in this… The scots have got a habit of giving nicknames to their strong alcohol. A form of fortified wine popular with the “people of the street” called Eldorado or Four Crown was named a bottle of “batter the wife” or “who the f\*\*k you looking at?” or “Electric soup”. The term I’ve heard for Buckfast (which is caffinated fortified wine) is a bottle of “Good morning your honour”. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/129 "2022-05-22T13:56:10Z")
The only thing shameful about the Full English is that if someone made a custom one for me (as opposed to a buffet), I would feel guilty leaving the mushrooms and baked beans untouched. If there were absolutely nothing left on the plate and seconds were not forthcoming, I’d _almost_ be hungry enough to eat the baked beans, but I’d still give them a pass. My ideal breakfast would be even heartier than a Full English, since I only eat a large breakfast when I’m on vacation and need to preload my calories. I’d take out the baked beans and mushrooms from the Full English, but put in rice and refried beans like the similar dish of [Bandeja Paisa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandeja_paisa) from Colombia, and then add a small steak similar to the more dinner-oriented meat plates around the globe. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/130 "2022-05-22T14:11:56Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > The only thing shameful about the Full English is that if someone made a custom one for me (as opposed to a buffet), I would feel guilty leaving the mushrooms and baked beans untouched. If there were absolutely nothing left on the plate and seconds were not forthcoming, I’d _almost_ be hungry enough to eat the baked beans, but I’d still give them a pass. No, no, no. The “shameful” part of the FEB is the white or blood pudding the English insist is food. English baked beans (which are totally different from what Americans think of as baked beans) are an Essential Part of a Balanced Breakfast. Although to tell the truth I usually just strip it down to EBCB. Bloody Caesars are why Canadians are so polite. They see somebody drinking a BC and think “That fucker’s crazy! Better act very polite to him or he’ll attack us with a beaver” and it happened so often that it became a National Characteristic. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/131 "2022-05-22T14:13:22Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > the white or blood pudding mmmm - white and blood pudding - food of the gods! ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/132 "2022-05-22T14:39:50Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > English baked beans (which are totally different from what Americans think of as baked beans) I cannot imagine they can ruin beans more thoroughly than the American version. Although the Brits are talented that way. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/133 "2022-05-22T14:57:32Z")
Think American Pork & Beans only without the pork and a little more tomato flavor. [![](https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/img/large/TJ0006.jpg) ](https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/img/large/TJ0006.jpg) There are always a couple of cans in the pantry for when the EBCB urge strikes. ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/134 "2022-05-22T15:21:11Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > The term I’ve heard for Buckfast (which is caffinated fortified wine) is a bottle of “Good morning your honour”. I’ve heard it called ‘Wreck the hoose juice’. Vile stuff, and yes I have tried it; I took a bottle of it to a multi-day festival, and wound up throwing most of it away, even though the onsite drink prices were extortionate. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/135 "2022-05-22T15:26:00Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Think American Pork & Beans only without the pork and a little more tomato flavor Except that’s why I don’t like American pork and beans yet I do like refried beans: because the latter doesn’t have vinegar or sweeteners. It’s possible that because of this, English beans would taste even worse to me than American ones, although it’s also possible that they would manage to get to the other side of the uncanny valley and taste better since I do like the bad parts of American beans in some contexts. I’m not going to give them a shot, though, since they look so similar to American beans that they seem unappetizing. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/136 "2022-05-22T16:03:43Z")
> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#): > > Amazingly, it does not include the horror which is Aromat. Aromat is _amazing_ stuff. I grew up with slow-cooked eggs with Aromat, and it’s my preferred sprinkle for chips. Never knew it was Swiss. Although I can’t see what’s the point of Aromat without MSG. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/137 "2022-05-22T16:08:11Z")
never mind ---
**Author:** ![alovem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@alovem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alovem)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/138 "2022-05-22T16:42:50Z")
[quote=“Kron, post:121, topic:964784, full:true”] > [@Kimstu](#): > > > [@EastUmpqua](#): > > > > > For the US (at least where I live) I would like to submit corn on the cob. With as much butter, salt and pepper as you can make stick to it. Preferably slightly burned. > > > [/quote] > > > > > > I am scratching my head trying to figure out what is in any way shameful about this. Fresh and properly cooked American corn on the cob is a divine gift from the loving hands of Chicomecóatl (Aztec maize goddess) herself. > > Yes, I too am confused… It ain’t what ya got but what ya do with it… 😝 ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/139 "2022-05-22T16:53:20Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > I’ve lived in Britain all my life and I’ve never heard of this “British Curry Pub”. Did you mean “British pub curry “? If so…. We’ll, I’m very surprised. Just googling the term will even find you recipes for it. j ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784/140 "2022-05-22T17:13:31Z")
Toronto has a sizable Island population and rotis and patties are delicious and commonplace. However - have never seen them with cheese, which sounds amaaazing to me. Once in awhile you see paneer samosas which are quite different. Thanks for the idea. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-national-dish-of-shame/964784.md?page=8)