I think it was started by someone going through mynopause. I find it so irritating I’d like to smack them upside the myndible.
Has there ever actually been a (serious) complaint of this nature?
However, the article points out that
Not that actual etymological facts are enough to persuade most womyn, wimmin and womben, I guess.
I roll my eyes overtly and try to ignore it.
Great. Now I’m going to go through the rest of the day with a mental image of the Swedish Chef singing “Freebird”.
What **silenus ** said.
What a convenient punching bag for an antifeminist backlash. When you get tired of punching it, could you shut off the lights and lock up? Thanks. See ya…
More of an antistupid backlash.
I support equal rights for women. I loooooooove women. I just find the “womyn” thing to be representative of feminisms lesser traits.
And one of the reasons people make fun of feminists is that the "womyn"ists are often lumped in with them. There are people who have worked (and still do) for suffrage, equal pay for equal work, equal opportunity in the workplace, preventing violence against women, allowing them into the military and clergy, and a great number of other necessary and noble efforts.
But the use of “womyn” is sorta funny. And poke-fun-at-able.
Some of the other traits of feminists that I think goes against them being taken seriously is hypersensitivity.
And a lack of humor.
Not that I am saying either applies to you…
:rolleyes:
I’m with you, Johanna.
So, you folks gonna change your usernames to Shoshyna and Johynna as a sign of solidarity with all womyn ?
So is anyone gonna write an email to that college with the actual facts and suggest that their educational mission might be better served by not making shit up?
Don’t forget, Johanna, people who use the word “womyn” particularly hate people like you and me.
Are you talking about the Womyn’s Music Festival and that inane policy (is that still in place?), or is there something else?
Yep.
Der Trihs, I already said in my first post to this thread that I don’t use these tendentiously altered spellings. I don’t know anyone who does. The only examples cited as still in use are leftovers from the 1970s or '80s. Enough beating up on poor old Eohippus. Careful, you’ll pound those fossil bones to dust, a loss for paleontology.
Eve, I grew up on Second Wave feminism, but nowadays feel much more at home in the Third Wave. Young feminists accept transsexual people as a normal matter of course nowadays. The grumpy old fogies who had a problem with us are now way behind the times. Recently I met a 20-year old feminist who told me that my joy and openness about owning my womanhood help her to feel better about being a woman.
These days I also meet a lot of older feminists who may have harbored prejudice against us in the old days but now accept us.
The “inane policy” of the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival to exclude MTF trans women is still in effect, last I heard (actually, isn’t it going on this week? It’s sometime in the middle of August…). I’ve heard that the rival Camp Trans keeps growing bigger and is more fun. I’m not sure how much enthusiasm the MWMF still has for actually enforcing its exclusion rule, or if they have some version of “don’t ask, don’t tell.” Some MTF trans people, like Kate Bornstein, have supported the MWMF’s right to make this rule. I see it as a relic of an unenlightened past that is best left on the dust heap of history.
I love to poke fun at myself with feminist humor, as long as it’s good. (Has anyone read Titters?)
Q. How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?
A. That isn’t funny!
Sure, if it provokes as much passion as this thread has. And people acuse feminists of being too serious–yeesh.
Eve and Johanna, as we know, all groups, whether feminists or other, include idiots. I’m sorry that gender policing is still so rampant.
It’s interesting, if you look at that “Womyn’s Centre” website from Carlson University, it says…
I think from this it seems clear that they would include transgendered people, doesn’t it?
I think the policy of the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival shows a much deeper hatred of men than a silly thing like changing the spelling of “women.” They are going to hold it against you for being born male, even if you don’t consider yourself one, and have gone to great lengths to change it. I just don’t get it.
Bolding mine. It’s being used right now; I also linked to that festival earlier. For that matter, google the word and you’ll get plenty more examples.
Right. And the information page at that website says:
(bolding mine)
So that sounds like it falls under Johanna’s rubrick of “leftovers from the 1970s or '80s”.
I’m not understanding your point.