# Your opinion of this quote please. (Men vs women, relationship type quote)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 11, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597 "2015-08-11T23:29:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/21 "2015-08-12T02:12:32Z")

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“He better be eating that pussy.”. 😃

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/22 "2015-08-12T02:13:27Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> What if a female whose operating principle is
> 
> WAIT TO SEE IF  
> HE’S ACTING LIKE A BOYFRIEND FIRST;  
> DON’T TREAT HIM  
> LIKE ONE UNTIL  
> HE’S EARNED IT.
> 
> meets a male whose operating principle is
> 
> WAIT TO SEE IF  
> SHE’S ACTING LIKE A GIRLFRIEND FIRST;  
> DON’T TREAT HER  
> LIKE ONE UNTIL  
> SHE’S EARNED IT.
> 
> ???
> 
> What happens if all males and females everywhere followed these operating principles?
> 
> What happens if an immovable post meets another immovable post?

A REAL MAN doesn’t question the logic.

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**Author:** ![Grotonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c2a13f/32.png) [@Grotonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grotonian)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/23 "2015-08-12T02:36:24Z")

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by Eugene Fitch Ware ( 1841 – 1911).

He and She

When I am dead you’ll find it hard,  
Said she,  
To ever find another girl  
Like me.

What makes you think, as I suppose  
You do,  
I’d ever want another girl  
Like you?

(Slight changes made so that it makes sense.)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/24 "2015-08-12T04:20:17Z")

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> [@Grotonian](#):
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> by Eugene Fitch Ware ( 1841 – 1911).
> 
> He and She
> 
> When I am dead you’ll find it hard,  
> Said she,  
> To ever find another girl  
> Like me.
> 
> \< . . . \>

[Original had the genders reversed:](http://www.public-domain-poetry.com/eugene-fitch-ware/he-and-she-39040)

> [@](#):
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> When I am dead you’ll find it hard,  
> Said he,  
> To ever find another man  
> Like me.
> 
> \< . . . \>

If she still finds it hard when he’s dead, what more could she want?

\<d&r\>

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**Author:** ![Grotonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c2a13f/32.png) [@Grotonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grotonian)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/25 "2015-08-12T04:36:30Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Original had the genders reversed:

Like I said, it makes more sense my way.

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**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/26 "2015-08-12T07:15:39Z")

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> [@Octarine](#):
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> Once you decipher it, it’s an OK thought, but something about the way it’s phrased is super passive-aggressive.

Actually, my read is that it is WAY more aggressive than passive.

It is up there with “If you love me, prove it!” to demand sex.

If I need to be something other than what I am, or act in a way I do not feel comfortable to act, then I guess you are not my “Other Half”.  
I this, or any other, life. :smack:

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/27 "2015-08-12T12:25:08Z")

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I think a better way to put it would be:

“Relationships need time and space to grow, and if you try to rush things to the next level before your partner is ready, you may push them away and you are opening yourself up to being hurt. If you are consistently giving more than you are getting, take a step back, pay attention to where your partner is at in the relationship, and go from there.”

I see a lot of my single friends, both men and women, thinking that if they just give _enough_, they can make a relationship work. So they assume they are exclusive after the second date, while their partner hasn’t made that promise and is probably on Tindr on their nights off. They do things like answer booty calls or rearrange their plans for last-minute dates, or accept cancellations without blinking, while at the same time not setting these same boundaries for themselves. They spend hours cooking special dinners, and then are surprised when they don’t get that level of devotion back.

And people generally take what they are given. Anyone is going to take that kind of attention, even as they get more and more turned off by the lack of boundaries and scent of neediness. So you end up with a dynamic where the more one person pulls away, the more the other gives, until the whole thing eventually ends in hurt feelings and resentment.

All of which could be avoided by just periodically checking in with where your partner is at.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/28 "2015-08-12T12:32:19Z")

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Fucking Facebook.

Even if you don’t have an account you still get inundated with its inanity.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/29 "2015-08-12T13:03:06Z")

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I would need to know what she means by “acting like a boyfriend” before I can decide if being treated like a boyfriend is worth it.

I swear, if I am ever single again, I am in a world of hurt. I have not one single clue on how it is done nowadays. Fortunately, I don’t do Facebook so I will miss all these helpful hints.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/30 "2015-08-12T13:55:25Z")

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It’s everywhere! Facebook, I mean.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/31 "2015-08-12T14:07:32Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Fucking Facebook.
> 
> Even if you don’t have an account you still get inundated with its inanity.

Tell me about it.

We have a federal election this October in Canada and one particular person (yes, only one) keeps posting stuff that just irks the hell out of me.

I’ve learned from the SDMB though that I don’t need to correct everyone on the internet with whom I disagree, so I just let it pass. But holy fuck it’s annoying.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/32 "2015-08-12T14:14:46Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
>
> What if a female whose operating principle is
> 
> WAIT TO SEE IF  
> HE’S ACTING LIKE A BOYFRIEND FIRST;  
> DON’T TREAT HIM  
> LIKE ONE UNTIL  
> HE’S EARNED IT.
> 
> meets a male whose operating principle is
> 
> WAIT TO SEE IF  
> SHE’S ACTING LIKE A GIRLFRIEND FIRST;  
> DON’T TREAT HER  
> LIKE ONE UNTIL  
> SHE’S EARNED IT.
> 
> ???
> 
> What happens if all males and females everywhere followed these operating principles?
> 
> What happens if an immovable post meets another immovable post?

You could write an entire doctoral thesis on the [game theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory) implications of this scenario.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-of-this-quote-please-men-vs-women-relationship-type-quote/727597/33 "2015-08-12T14:20:53Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> My opinion is that most of life can’t be summed up on a Facebook post.

[There you go.](http://i.imgur.com/Aqq7203.jpg) Now, spam all your facebook friends with it and enjoy the metaness.

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