# Your Opinion On Snowden Poll

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 22, 2015, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274 "2015-04-22T10:51:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/21 "2015-04-22T18:44:36Z")

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I think the answer falls into political lines:

I asked a buddy of mine right after the story broke. He’s one of those who posts an anti-Obama Facebook article of the day (seriously, is there a repository for those: “Guys, post this today”).

Is Snowden

1. A traitor who exposed US secrets
2. A patriot who exposed the excesses of the Obama Administration

His answer: Wait and see (I silently added, “to see what Fox News tells me think”)

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/22 "2015-04-22T19:25:58Z")

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I’m personally fine with Snowden’s actions.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/23 "2015-04-22T19:36:53Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I’m personally fine with Snowden’s actions.

The year is 1942, and you are an American citizen living in the US. Eddie Snodokov, a physicist employed by a firm working with the Department of War, steals and provides to the international press thousands of pages detailing the US government’s plan to create a bomb powerful enough to level an entire city, complete with technical schematics and sums of data that he admits he didn’t look at before handing over, hours before hopping aboard a steamer to Germany, which promptly grants him asylum.

Are you personally fine with his actions?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/24 "2015-04-22T19:38:13Z")

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Why, it’s almost as if that’s an entirely different thing than what Snowden did.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/25 "2015-04-22T19:41:50Z")

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When Becky Hendershot tells the whole freshman class that Susie Parker gave a boy a hand-job under the bleachers, she is a gossip. When she tells the whole freshman class that _you_ gave a boy a hand-job under the bleachers, she is a dirty, loud-mouthed _ **BITCH!** _

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/26 "2015-04-22T19:44:47Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Why, it’s almost as if that’s an entirely different thing than what Snowden did.

In what way? Did Snowden _not_ steal an inordinate amount of national security data and turn it over to the press without going through it, then defect to an enemy state?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/27 "2015-04-22T19:51:53Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The year is 1942, and you are an American citizen living in the US. Eddie Snodokov, a physicist employed by a firm working with the Department of War, steals and provides to the international press thousands of pages detailing the US government’s plan to create a bomb powerful enough to level an entire city, complete with technical schematics and sums of data that he admits he didn’t look at before handing over, hours before hopping aboard a steamer to Germany, which promptly grants him asylum.
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> Are you personally fine with his actions?

Wrong analogy, Scooter. :smack:

The only bomb that Snowden dropped on the US is that their own gov’t was spying on them.

\<Putin\> I am shocked! Shocked I tell you, to learn that the US has been spying on all communications going in and out of their country. \</Putin\>

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/28 "2015-04-22T19:55:11Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Wrong analogy, Scooter. :smack:

I can’t help but notice the way you avoided answering the question.

Are you personally fine with Snodokov’s actions or not?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/29 "2015-04-22T19:58:09Z")

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No. I believe I fully answered your question.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/30 "2015-04-22T19:58:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In what way? Did Snowden _not_ steal an inordinate amount of national security data and turn it over to the press without going through it, then defect to an enemy state?

Well, I guess when Russia levels an American city, we’ll all be suitably embarrassed.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/31 "2015-04-22T19:59:57Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> No. I believe I fully answered your question.

So why are you OK with one act of treason and not the other?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/32 "2015-04-22T20:04:42Z")

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Not all acts of treason are created equal.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/33 "2015-04-22T20:07:26Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Not all acts of treason are created equal.

So you _do_ acknowledge that Snowden is a traitor, then?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/34 "2015-04-22T20:15:49Z")

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I acknowledge that he broke the law.

I’m simply not inclined to treat him as if he hand delivered nuclear weapons to ISIS.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/35 "2015-04-22T20:22:53Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m simply not inclined to treat him as if he hand delivered nuclear weapons to ISIS.

Nor did Benedict Arnold deliver the means by which the British could prevent American independence. Does that make Arnold an American patriot for exposing secrets that The Man didn’t want The People to know?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/36 "2015-04-22T20:23:33Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> You were consulted on Election Day.

🙂  
Has it been determined whether or not Snowden is responsible for any one being killed or tortured through the information he released?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/37 "2015-04-22T20:29:54Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Nor did Benedict Arnold deliver the means by which the British could prevent American independence. Does that make Arnold an American patriot for exposing secrets that The Man didn’t want The People to know?

Once more, [a much less than apt analogy](http://clements.umich.edu/exhibits/online/spies/stories-arnold-2.html). Say, you’re good at these! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/38 "2015-04-22T20:51:10Z")

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[Obligatory John Oliver link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M), perhaps more interesting for the “Man on the Street” opinions than the Snowden interview itself.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/39 "2015-04-22T22:05:34Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> The only bomb that Snowden dropped on the US is that their own gov’t was spying on them.

Plus all of the details of how the US was spying on many other governments around the world. Put a fly in the ointment of diplomatic relations with many countries.

There was a better way for Snowden to handle his concerns. And I laugh at the assumption that he was about to be _snuffed out_.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-opinion-on-snowden-poll/718274/40 "2015-04-23T00:17:31Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Plus all of the details of how the US was spying on many other governments around the world. Put a fly in the ointment of diplomatic relations with many countries.

As it should have.

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