# Your out of your jurisdiction! - Does it matter **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 18, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-out-of-your-jurisdiction-does-it-matter/766237 "2016-09-18T04:19:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-out-of-your-jurisdiction-does-it-matter/766237/61 "2016-12-24T14:44:10Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > You’ll be relieved to know there are specific statutes about this. > > We have the situation in St. Louis of being next to another state (Illinois) with a number of bridges connecting the two. > > There is a doctrine called “fresh pursuit” which lets police in one state cross into the other state while chasing a suspect. It isn’t unusual to hear about chases from one state into another and back where the chasee ends up being pursued by multiple law enforcement agencies from both states (city and county police, Missouri Highway Patrol, Illinois State Police, etc.) > > Here’s a [Missouri court case](http://www.courts.mo.gov/file.jsp?id=62964) that talks about it, when the defendant claimed the St. Louis Police didn’t have authority to arrest him once he crossed into Illinois. Which brings up the question of “when does fresh pursuit end?”. Some of the things I read about it suggest it only applies to certain levels of crime (i.e. felonies and misdemeanours with punishment greater than one year in prison). I presume then that the “evading police” is the crime they are in fresh pursuit of, not speeding? If the pursuit loses sight of you for, say, 5 minutes, has it lost its freshness? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-out-of-your-jurisdiction-does-it-matter/766237/62 "2016-12-24T19:45:19Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Are there any federal military bases where you can just walk (or run) into the base unchallenged ? I rather had the impression they’re all fenced in with 24 hour guards on the gates. Some are, but a lot of them out West have no walls or gates for large portions of them, which was unexpected for a German family who were lost in Death Valley and tried to [go to what they thought was a walled military base](http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/search-and-rescue/the-hunt-for-the-death-valley-germans/). ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-out-of-your-jurisdiction-does-it-matter/766237/63 "2016-12-24T23:07:39Z")
> [@md2000](#): > > Which brings up the question of “when does fresh pursuit end?”. Some of the things I read about it suggest it only applies to certain levels of crime (i.e. felonies and misdemeanours with punishment greater than one year in prison). I presume then that the “evading police” is the crime they are in fresh pursuit of, not speeding? If the pursuit loses sight of you for, say, 5 minutes, has it lost its freshness? IANAL but I’d wager a guess that “fresh pursuit” ends when the pursuer stops pursuing. As to what particular crimes it applies to, as shown in my cite, the state of Illinois neither specifies nor limits the type of offense that can be pursued. **Bricker’s** cite for Wisconsin does specify felonies, so it obviously varies by state. ---
**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-out-of-your-jurisdiction-does-it-matter/766237/64 "2016-12-26T13:07:25Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Are there any federal military bases where you can just walk (or run) into the base unchallenged ? I rather had the impression they’re all fenced in with 24 hour guards on the gates. It also is a factor of when. September 10, 2001 you could drive onto the main (admin) areas of many military bases. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-out-of-your-jurisdiction-does-it-matter/766237.md?page=3)