# Your perfect climate **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 2, 2006, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065 "2006-01-02T09:16:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/21 "2006-01-03T07:04:19Z")
> [@calm kiwi](#): > > …I left Israel when the temp got to be over 40 everyday (104 apparently). Where and when were you in Israel!? Because unless you were in the Rift Valley someplace (Eilat, Tiberias, points between), this just doesn’t normally happen! I really wanted to say “Tel Aviv” until I read you had apparently tried it and not liked it ☹ – winter hardly ever below 10C (50F) daytime, summer up to 30-32C, true, but everything is A/C-ed, and it’s a lovely temp for the beach. And **no rain** , none, from May to October 😃 And anyway, if you don’t like the weather where you are in Israel, just drive 15 miles and you’re in a different climate. Our little inky-dinky country has as much climate variation as the state of California. ---
**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/22 "2006-01-03T07:40:35Z")
[San Clemente, California](http://www.bestofsanclemente.com/). > [@](#): > > San Clemente boasts “The World’s BEST Climate”, with sunshine 342 days per year. The annual average temperature is 70 degrees Fahrenheit. At 11:36PM in early January, the temperature shows as 53F. I did miss the seasonal changes after a while, but it was sure nice to never need a coat or snow tires or an umbrella. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/23 "2006-01-03T08:04:42Z")
Santa Cruz, CA is hard to beat. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/24 "2006-01-03T08:31:59Z")
> [@LouisB](#): > > Santa Cruz, CA is hard to beat. Dude, have you lived there? If you have, don’t you remember the pervasive black mold caused by the constant unrelenting damp? The fact that a single day, any time of year, likely ranges from “I better grab the wool coat” to “I wish I was wearing shorts and wasn’t lugging this damn wool coat around” and back again in a few hours? Trying to look festive around a beach bonfire wearing gloves and earmuffs in July? Waking up in your poorly insulated house to seeing your breath hang in the air? The constant, dreary rain for five months of the year punctuated only by fantastic storms that tear your umbrella out of your hands and cause your power to go out twice a day, leading you to rely on battery operated alarm clocks? Thinking about what a sick joke it was that somebody put a California beach town somewhere so cold, drizzly, damp and grey? If thats what you like, more power to ya. But for me, never again. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/25 "2006-01-03T13:22:48Z")
I liked the weather in Santa Cruz. But then, I’m originally from San Francisco, that sort of weather is homey and pleasant for me. I love cool foggy days. Bonus points if it rains. But I like the wild changes of weather we have here in Chicago. In the last six months alone, we’ve had a temperature variation of 114 degrees F/63 degrees C (and when you add in the humidity and windchill indices, it’s even greater). I can’t say that I was really _happy_ that one day it hit 104 (it was 107 with the humidity; that’s 40/42 Celsius), and I called in sick a few weeks ago when I woke up and the radio announced it was -14F/-26C with the windchill (I really had been fighting a budding cold and couldn’t deal with waiting for a bus in that). But either way, you know it’s not going to last long. Wait a little while, and it’ll change. I guess I’m just not picky. I think the only weather I really wouldn’t like would be desert-style heat. (I lived in Jerusalem for awhile, but it’s so high above sea level that the desert location is mostly negated.) The couple days I spent in Las Vegas were unbearable. ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/26 "2006-01-03T13:32:41Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > I guess I’m just not picky. I think the only weather I really wouldn’t like would be desert-style heat. (I lived in Jerusalem for awhile, but it’s so high above sea level that the desert location is mostly negated.) The couple days I spent in Las Vegas were unbearable. Nah, Jerusalem just isn’t “desert” – it gets well in excess of 500mm/20" of percipitation a year. I believe definitions of “desert” vary around “less than 200-250mm/year.” I’ll grant you that it can get pretty hot and dry in the summer (when there’s no rain); but real desert-like condition only happen during _Khamsin_ (dry, hot Easterly wind; sort of like a scirocco), and generally only for a few hours – Jerusalem cools off nicely in the evening and night (Tel-Aviv not so much) ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/27 "2006-01-03T13:32:57Z")
I definitely like a bit of seasonal variation, some summer sun and winter snow, though probably not as much of either as Ontario has been getting over the past year or so. But overall… say 23 or 24, nice t-shirt weather, not particularly sunny with a fair bit of cloud cover, and no precipitation. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/28 "2006-01-03T13:51:38Z")
> [@Noone Special](#): > > I’ll grant you that it can get pretty hot and dry in the summer (when there’s no rain); but real desert-like condition only happen during _Khamsin_ (dry, hot Easterly wind; sort of like a scirocco), and generally only for a few hours – Jerusalem cools off nicely in the evening and night (Tel-Aviv not so much) We had a hamsin when I was there, it was hideous. It started on the morning of Shavuot, and I was at the kotel all night. Had to walk all the way back to Har Hatzofim (we’re talking…maybe three miles or so, all uphill). After having been awake all night, wearing a long skirt and dress shoes, and all of a sudden it’s eighty bajillion degrees…horrible. I know from Tel Aviv-style weather, since I lived in Haifa for two months in the summer. The humidity - and the fact that it never cooled down at all - was unbearable. ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/29 "2006-01-03T14:04:22Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > We had a hamsin when I was there, it was hideous. It started on the morning of Shavuot… And, of course, the **one** day of the year that _Khamsin_ conditions are **guaranteed** is _Yom Kippur_… :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > I know from Tel Aviv-style weather, since I lived in Haifa for two months in the summer. The humidity - and the fact that it never cooled down at all - was unbearable. I think you’re being harsh here. Nights in the Tel-Aviv area are, IMHO, quite bearable even in summer. But hey, I guess maybe I’m just used to it… ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/30 "2006-01-03T15:12:43Z")
I complain a lot about the winter, but I actually rather like Northeast Weather. We have three distinct seasons (spring gets a little run together with winter & summer). And I’m rather proud of my ability to get into the car during a raging blizzard and drive without a second thought. The only thing I’d like is a little bit longer of summer. It doesn’t get really hot until July, and then we only have two months. Autumn here is stunningly beautiful though. 70 - 85 degrees every day, blue skies, and a warm breeze. ---
**Author:** ![Citizen\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@Citizen\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Citizen_Bob)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/31 "2006-01-03T16:57:05Z")
Air Temp = 102.4 deg F Air Pressure = 103 kPa Air Humidity = 92% Weather condition: Thick Low clouds, possibly lightening & precipitation. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/32 "2006-01-03T18:42:36Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I love the four seasons. That is, I like four seasons that are all about the same. 75 - 90F during the day and about 70F at night. In other words, a tropical island. I grew up in the Deep South and that was just too freakin’ hot during the summer. Now I live in New England where people always swear that they cherish the four seasons. That is just a coping mechanism. Large parts of 3 of the seasons just plain suck and they know it deep down too. Yep, I’m in NH/VT now and I do like it because the four seasons aren’t equal. Short summer, yay, long winter, yay, but I’m with you on fall being too short (the rains come in Nov and give way to COLD in January, and then mud till May). Best day is around 65, breezy, a few clouds in an otherwise brilliant blue sky. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/33 "2006-01-03T19:27:26Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > I think I would do very well in the atric circle. I love the winter and also the short days and long nights We should work out some sort of time-sharing arrangement. I would like to live in the northern hemisphere from April-September, and the southern hemisphere the rest of the year, just to get away from the short days and long nights. Ideally, I would live in a California-like climate in both, without rain in the summer (though thunderstorms would be OK, but there wouldn’t be steady, drizzly, depressing rain). ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/34 "2006-01-03T19:27:30Z")
> [@calm kiwi](#): > > Somewhere in Australia (Sydney, I THINK) had their highest ever temp yesterday, 45 degrees (?). > > To me that would be hell. Now, if that was with high humidity, that would be _my_ idea of hell. How can anyone stand to live in Bangkok (35C, 95% relative humidity, _all the time_)? > [@](#): > > One of the reasons I live where I do (Auck, NZ) is the climate. 8 is FUCKING freezing HERE but there is no snow and you don’t have to own a heavy duty winter coat (nor will you find or need central heating). Do you guys insulate your houses? > [@](#): > > Now it is summer 26/28 is about as hot as it gets (ok 28 may be an exageration). In Toronto, that’s nice late-spring weather, before the summer heat and smog hit. 🙂 > [@](#): > > In my young and carefree days I travelled to the hot places. I left Israel when the temp got to be over 40 everyday (104 apparently). I was soooo not keen on London when it was reallllllllllllly cold. London, England, is cold? Ever? Unless you mean London, Ontario? 😕 My idea of perfect climate: warm and _dry_. Every spring and fall, if we are lucky, we here in Southern Ontario get one or two precious perfect days: 28-30 degrees Celsius with low humidity. The sun is warm but you don’t sweat much and it’s just a joy to be outside. (Most warm weather here has varying degrees of too much humidity, from sweaty to wretched, as the warm moist air heads north from the Gulf of Mexico.) My other favourite weather is winter weather when it’s cold enough (below around -8 to -10) that snow lying on the ground in the sun does not melt. This means the roads are dry and clear, and there is no slush, and no new treacherous ice where snowbanks have melted and refrozen. In such weather, the snow sparkles and is beautiful in the sunshine. 🙂 My absolute least favourite weather: just above freezing, drizzly/rainy/wet, and windy. This kind of weather makes me think of relocating to Victoria. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/35 "2006-01-03T20:58:32Z")
San Francisco on almost any given day. Even the cold rainy days have a romantic feel about them. ---
**Author:** ![manx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@manx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manx)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/36 "2006-01-04T10:52:03Z")
> [@calm kiwi](#): > > To me that would be hell. One of the reasons I live where I do (Auck, NZ) is the climate. 8 is FUCKING freezing HERE but there is no snow and you don’t have to own a heavy duty winter coat (nor will you find or need central heating). > \ > To me Auckland has the perfect temp. Whats yours? Perfect climate? _Perfect climate!_ Mother of GOD woman! There’s no central heating in any of Auckland’s infinate villas because we cling desparatly to the belief that we’re some sort of polynesian metropolis. ‘Sub-tropical’ we say through winter, huddled next to the fitful fire, swaddled in duvets. ‘S-s-sub-tropical’, we nod to each other, ‘coudn’t pay me to live in some c-c-cold climate, Wellington, ugh’ as our noses ice over and our breath hangs in the living room. There’s a lot of things I love about this city, but the weather, and the terrible way that we deal with it i.e. those chiseling bastards charging an arm and a leg for balsa-wood kindling, isn’t one of them. I’ve become fond of the way the weather refuses to pick a mood, hour to hour, but I’ve given up on, say, outdoor picnics. My ideal climate consists of sharp cold winters, blazing hot summers and not a lot inbetween. And I want to be able to say ‘it’s a dry heat’, and mean it. And I _never_ want to have to say ‘oh, it’s not the heat, it’s the humidity’ again. ---
**Author:** ![manx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@manx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manx)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/37 "2006-01-04T11:03:04Z")
(Hmm, that came out snottier than I intended… It’s all from a place of love, **calm kiwi** , all from love) ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/38 "2006-01-06T09:18:16Z")
> [@Noone Special](#): > > Where and when were you in Israel!? Because unless you were in the Rift Valley someplace (Eilat, Tiberias, points between), this just doesn’t normally happen! > > I really wanted to say “Tel Aviv” until I read you had apparently tried it and not liked it ☹ – winter hardly ever below 10C (50F) daytime, summer up to 30-32C, true, but everything is A/C-ed, and it’s a lovely temp for the beach. And **no rain** , none, from May to October 😃 > > And anyway, if you don’t like the weather where you are in Israel, just drive 15 miles and you’re in a different climate. Our little inky-dinky country has as much climate variation as the state of California. Negav desert (I could name the moshav but that seems wrong) it was HOT HOT HOT!!! I would have moved but I was picking watermelon! ReallllllllllllllllllllllY Hot and yes it was it the 80’s,was that the hot decade? ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/39 "2006-01-06T09:28:03Z")
> [@manx](#): > > Perfect climate? _Perfect climate!_ Mother of GOD woman! There’s no central heating in any of Auckland’s infinate villas because we cling desparatly to the belief that we’re some sort of polynesian metropolis. ‘Sub-tropical’ we say through winter, huddled next to the fitful fire, swaddled in duvets. ‘S-s-sub-tropical’, we nod to each other, ‘coudn’t pay me to live in some c-c-cold climate, Wellington, ugh’ as our noses ice over and our breath hangs in the living room. . > [@](#): > > BUT, BUT, BUT…it is warmer here 😃 That is true. Warmer BECAUSE of windier houses, imagine the draught in your average Auck house if it actually snowed! We would have frostbight by midday! It ISSSSSSS colder in Welly then Auck, just Auck is rainier and less weatherproof > [@](#): > > My ideal climate consists of sharp cold winters, blazing hot summers and not a lot inbetween. And I want to be able to say ‘it’s a dry heat’, and mean it. And I _never_ want to have to say ‘oh, it’s not the heat, it’s the humidity’ again. ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2006, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065/40 "2006-01-06T12:31:10Z")
> [@calm kiwi](#): > > Negav desert (I could name the moshav but that seems wrong) it was HOT HOT HOT!!! I would have moved but I was picking watermelon! > > ReallllllllllllllllllllllY Hot and yes it was it the 80’s,was that the hot decade? I don’t remember the 80’s being too much hotter than any other time, but, good Og, woman, the Negev in the summer!? Of course that’s an unbearable climate. That’s why Tel-Aviv isn’t in the Negev! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-perfect-climate/338065.md?page=1)