# Your poker quirks habits and rules **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 8, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-poker-quirks-habits-and-rules/549629 "2010-08-08T21:30:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-poker-quirks-habits-and-rules/549629/21 "2010-08-10T00:53:07Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@John\_DiFool](#): > > > > Is Texas Hold-Em pretty much the only game in town anymore? > > > > A draw to an inside straight-flush would, all other things being equal, be a good bet-you can hit the straight, or the flush, or both (or am I missing something). > > i would like to play you a lot. you’ve only got thirteen outs. and if i am in after the river you can probably make book that i have more than that. if i have the same hole suit as you your outs go down to 4. and that’s only if i haven’t nutted a bigger straight or a boat or quads or anything else already. in that case you have one out. that sucks. > > **mensa**? > > definitely come join us on thursday. i just want to sit to your left. He has 13 cards that would likely give him a winner. That is better than 1 in 4. If there is more than 4 times what you need to bet in the pot, you have to go for it. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-poker-quirks-habits-and-rules/549629/22 "2010-08-10T03:36:56Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > i would like to play you a lot. you’ve only got thirteen outs. and if i am in after the river you can probably make book that i have more than that. if i have the same hole suit as you your outs go down to 4. and that’s only if i haven’t nutted a bigger straight or a boat or quads or anything else already. in that case you have one out. that sucks. > > > > **mensa**? > > > > definitely come join us on thursday. i just want to sit to your left. > > He has 13 cards that would likely give him a winner. That is better than 1 in 4. If there is more than 4 times what you need to bet in the pot, you have to go for it. cool, i’ll bet you at 1 in 4 odds. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-poker-quirks-habits-and-rules/549629/23 "2010-08-10T03:39:35Z")
neta: of couse if i have any of his outs then his odds get worse, or i could have nutted it already. you really should join us as well on thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-poker-quirks-habits-and-rules/549629/24 "2010-08-10T17:59:03Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > He has 13 cards that would likely give him a winner. That is better than 1 in 4. If there is more than 4 times what you need to bet in the pot, you have to go for it. > > cool, i’ll bet you at 1 in 4 odds. Hell yeah I’ll take that bet, in a heartbeat. If I miss my draw, I can fold on the river. If I hit it, I could be taking a very big pot. The implied odds are huge. If you’re recommending, as it seems here, that you should fold a straight flush draw to almost any bet because your opponent “might” have quads or a full house or a higher flush or they “might” have some of your outs, lessening your odds… you’re playing scared and way, way too tight. Note that I’m not saying the opposite, that you should _never_ lay a 13-outter down; obviously, it depends on the situation, the pot odds, the texture of the board, any read you may have on your opponent, the actual bet, etc., but you seem to be implying that “only” 13 outs should be an auto-fold to almost any bet. Yes, there are times where you may hit your draw, and still lose, and that’s certainly something to keep in mind, but if you’re playing _assuming_ that’s going to happen and that any bet means they have the nuts, you’re laying way too many winning hands down over your playing time. People bluff in poker. People bet top pair all the way down. Hell, you see people betting bottom pair all the way down. > [@peekercpa](#): > > and if i am in after the river you can probably make book that i have more than that. If you’re only still in at the river with ‘more than that’, then you are way too easy to read, in general. That would be a good book for me to have. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-poker-quirks-habits-and-rules/549629/25 "2010-08-17T05:45:16Z")
[bump] I’m loving these True Confessions. Mine is that I probably don’t shift gears often enough. And I hate crappy aces - I think Doyle said something like “There is nothing worse than going broke with A5.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-poker-quirks-habits-and-rules/549629.md?page=1)