# Your sartorial pet peeves?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [March 8, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321 "2016-03-08T20:05:57Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/1 "2016-03-08T20:05:57Z")
Things that virtually nobody notices or seems to care very much about when it comes to clothing make, colour, style, etc… but irritate you (when nothing more pressing is on your mind).
- Men’s dress shirt single breast pocket. Who besides Dilbert carries things in that pocket anymore?
- Men’s dress shirt placket. I prefer a clean (french) line down the front of my shirt. A traditional placket is often stiff and buckles and breaks that simple elegant look, especially since wearing a tie is becoming less and less necessary for men’s business attire.
- Shirt buttons that yellow and crumble. You’d think by now clothes manufacturers would come up with a material that dry cleaners could not destroy in a matter of a dozen or so cleaning cycles.
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### Author:  [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/2 "2016-03-08T20:15:27Z")
Fake pockets on waistcoats. A proper fob pocket is unbelievably useful re-purposed to carry your cellphone, but too often they’re just for show, with only about an inch inside. Actually any faux-pocket on a jacket that just consists of a flap covering nothing. I want depth, damn it. If you don’t want me to put stuff in it and mess up the lines, fine, don’t have outer pockets.
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### Author:  [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/3 "2016-03-08T20:21:01Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> You’d think by now clothes manufacturers would come up with a material that dry cleaners could not destroy in a matter of a dozen or so cleaning cycles.
This might be your problem. Your cleaning your clothes too much. I only clean mine like twice a year to make them last. See if that helps.
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### Author:  [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/4 "2016-03-08T20:23:32Z")
The phrase “please advise.”
To me, it reads as such a dickish phrase. It immediately makes me turn red and say nasty things about the sender.
I don’t know how it’s supposed to be taken but I suspect I am taking it wrong. Hate it with a passion, though.
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/5 "2016-03-08T20:26:39Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> This might be your problem. Your cleaning your clothes too much. I only clean mine like twice a year to make them last. See if that helps.
I’m not sure how I can limit cleaning my dress shirts to just twice a year.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/6 "2016-03-08T20:33:51Z")
That’s easy. Just buy about 130 dress shirts.
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### Author:  [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/7 "2016-03-08T20:36:43Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> The phrase “please advise.”
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> To me, it reads as such a dickish phrase. It immediately makes me turn red and say nasty things about the sender.
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> I don’t know how it’s supposed to be taken but I suspect I am taking it wrong. Hate it with a passion, though.
How is that relevant?
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/8 "2016-03-08T20:37:37Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> - Shirt buttons that yellow and crumble. You’d think by now clothes manufacturers would come up with a material that dry cleaners could not destroy in a matter of a dozen or so cleaning cycles.
As for this, there’s also an easy fix; have your shirts tailored to use studs and not buttons.
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### Author:  [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/9 "2016-03-08T20:38:15Z")
People wearing band t-shirts to a concert by the very same band. We get it, you really like the band! I do too, that’s so amazing, we have so much in common! I never would have guessed that there were other fans of the band right here at their concert! Exceptions are if it is a really old shirt.
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/10 "2016-03-08T20:40:53Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> As for this, there’s also an easy fix; have your shirts tailored to use studs and not buttons.
Like a tuxedo shirt?
Seems cheaper to just keep replacing the buttons.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/11 "2016-03-08T20:47:09Z")
You don’t leave the studs on the shirt when you send them out for cleaning; you (or more likely your valet) removes them each evening and puts them on the new shirt in the morning.
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/12 "2016-03-08T21:05:34Z")
I shall inform Alfred of his new responsibility. Just as soon as he’s back from detailing the bat mobile.
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### Author:  [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/13 "2016-03-08T21:06:18Z")
> [@Penfeather](#):
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> How is that relevant?
Ha! My bad! I read the subject quickly, took two phone calls and read an article before coming back to ramble off my two cents.
What a dip! lol
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### Author:  [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/14 "2016-03-08T21:25:48Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Ha! My bad! I read the subject quickly, took two phone calls and read an article before coming back to ramble off my two cents.
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> What a dip! lol
Don’t worry, I missed the “…when it comes to clothing…” part too at first.
On topic:
Jeans with no back pockets make me irrationally annoyed.
My godfather had a suit jacket with a fake handkerchief sticking out of a fake breast pocket. Drove me nuts.
When I can’t figure out if something is blue or purple.
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### Author:  [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/15 "2016-03-08T21:29:57Z")
Pants that have the pockets sewn shut, or that have tiny fake pockets.
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### Author:  [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/16 "2016-03-08T21:31:06Z")
I like dark solid colours for my business shirts, but it’s hard to find many of them except in ‘slim fit’ or ‘tailored fit’. i need a little more generous a cut than that.
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### Author:  [@TheChileanBlob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheChileanBlob)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/17 "2016-03-08T21:52:47Z")
> [@Penfeather](#):
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> Actually any faux-pocket on a jacket that just consists of a flap covering nothing.
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> Jeans with no back pockets make me irrationally annoyed.
Women’s pants often suffer from crappy pockets. When I used to have to wear black pants to work, I stocked up at the Goodwill. Not one pair had decent pockets. There either weren’t any at all, or they were too shallow to hold anything you didn’t want to lose. One pair had a gold zipper at the waistband- a real working metal zipper- with nothing behind it. :smack:
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### Author:  [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/18 "2016-03-08T22:03:46Z")
Clip-on ties. If you’re a police officer and don’t want to give criminals something to grab on to, you’re exempt. The rest of you, learn to tie it.
This goes for bow ties as well.
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### Author:  [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/19 "2016-03-08T22:10:05Z")
Brown shoes with gray suits / slacks. I don’t know when that became acceptable from a fashion standpoint, but I can’t get used to it.
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### Author:  [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)
#### Post date: [March 8, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/20 "2016-03-08T22:35:00Z")
> [@Sauron](#):
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> Brown shoes with gray suits / slacks. I don’t know when that became acceptable from a fashion standpoint, but I can’t get used to it.
Depends on the belt, shirt, tie colors. There’s nothing wrong with gray & brown.
And then there’s winter outerwear that doesn’t have enough pockets. Years ago I bought a coat at AF with 12 assorted pockets (dedicated pockets for cell phone, etc.). I’m still wearing it; wish I could find a new one like it.
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