# Your sartorial pet peeves?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 8, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321 "2016-03-08T20:05:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/21 "2016-03-08T23:01:19Z")

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Anything fake. This includes clip on ties, corfam shoes, imaginary pockets and permanent press slacks. I even saw fake pocket squares glued to a hunk of cardboard once! I don’t even like non-functional sleeve buttons on suit jackets.

And for the love of God, can baseball caps just go away!? Especially the plastic, see through “trucker” kind. You can get a nice flat cap for the same price or a real felt hat for twice the price (which is still quite cheap). And it will last forever, look good, actually protect you from the sun and rain, keep your head warm, and not make everywhere you go look like your trailer park.

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**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/22 "2016-03-08T23:02:43Z")

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Also, one word: Polyester. The devil’s fabric.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/23 "2016-03-08T23:33:21Z")

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Neckties. Period.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/24 "2016-03-08T23:40:04Z")

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I get annoyed when my wife asks “why are you wearing that”. The answer is and will always be “It’s comfortable”.

Then she finally gets to the point and says “Don’t wear that, please wear this”.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/25 "2016-03-08T23:44:18Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> - Men’s dress shirt single breast pocket. Who besides Dilbert carries things in that pocket anymore?

Well, I do sometimes. But how about that shirt pocket on pajamas? What the heck is that for?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/26 "2016-03-09T00:13:06Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> I get annoyed when my wife asks “why are you wearing that”. The answer is and will always be “It’s comfortable”.
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> Then she finally gets to the point and says “Don’t wear that, please wear this”.

How about the ever-popular “Is that what you’re wearing?”  
My peeve is shoes lighter than your outfit, particularly women’s shoes lighter than their leg covering.

Big clunky booties or “shooties” (cringe) with tiny peeptoes.

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**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/27 "2016-03-09T00:15:27Z")

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I hate to see guys wearing pants so long that they’re bunched around the shoe. I know off the rack clothing doesn’t always fit just right, but for a few bucks you could have them hemmed.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/28 "2016-03-09T00:15:28Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Well, I do sometimes. But how about that shirt pocket on pajamas? What the heck is that for?

Used Kleenex.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/29 "2016-03-09T00:45:48Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Used Kleenex.

I thought that’s what the trash was for.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/30 "2016-03-09T00:59:52Z")

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Those men’s suits—with the wide opening such that the uppermost button (usually one of only two provided) is nearly down to your navel and no overlap, and the lapels are folded back with contrasty shiny material showing there. They’re all that there is, practically; and that makes them “not clothing”, they’re just a uniform. Can’t someone in fashion invent something else dressy for malebodied people to wear that doesn’t look like that?

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/31 "2016-03-09T01:31:01Z")

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Sleeveless “shells” to wear under blazers. Yes, I am a woman, but I am also human. I sweat. I cannot effing wear a sleeveless top under an effing blazer that has to be drycleaned. I am not that rich. TRY AGAIN.

No, antiperspirant doesn’t solve the problem.

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**Author:** ![Whatever4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@Whatever4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whatever4)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/32 "2016-03-09T01:48:29Z")

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I have no tolerance for an uneven hemline, whether on a dress, skirt, or slacks. Drives me mad.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/33 "2016-03-09T02:06:52Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> This might be your problem. Your cleaning your clothes too much. I only clean mine like twice a year to make them last. See if that helps.

Wait, you’re supposed to clean them? But why? They were clean when I bought them…

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/34 "2016-03-09T02:25:13Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m not sure how I can limit cleaning my dress shirts to just twice a year.

Wash them. In the laundry.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/35 "2016-03-09T03:33:13Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> I thought that’s what the trash was for.

Sure, if you want to get up in the middle of the night to put used Kleenex in the trash instead of stuffing them into your pajamas pocket till the morning.

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/36 "2016-03-09T03:34:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Sure, if you want to get up in the middle of the night to put used Kleenex in the trash instead of stuffing them into your pajamas pocket till the morning.

This is what the floor is for. Better yet, a wastepaper basket beside the bed.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/37 "2016-03-09T03:38:39Z")

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That nasty, dirty little style of men’s clothes being too small, like they are not-quite\_little boys just outgrowing their little boys clothes. It was ugly enough on women, do you really think making the Pro-Pedo look gender non specific makes it _ **better** _?

::Shudder:

> [@Sauron](#):
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> Brown shoes with gray suits / slacks. I don’t know when that became acceptable from a fashion standpoint, but I can’t get used to it.

I think it’s a European thing, and perfectly acceptable.

I hate it.

> [@seal\_cleaner](#):
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> I hate to see guys wearing pants so long that they’re bunched around the shoe. I know off the rack clothing doesn’t always fit just right, but for a few bucks you could have them hemmed.

I think it’s a “break”. Watch several movies with Gregory Peck and come back.

[And get a suit jacket that actually closes while you’re at it.]

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/38 "2016-03-09T04:32:49Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> - Men’s dress shirt single breast pocket. Who besides Dilbert carries things in that pocket anymore?

It’s useful for a Cross pen & pencil set. And if you need one, you can clip a photo ID badge to it.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/39 "2016-03-09T04:37:04Z")

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> [@TheChileanBlob](#):
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> Women’s pants often suffer from crappy pockets. When I used to have to wear black pants to work, I stocked up at the Goodwill. Not one pair had decent pockets. There either weren’t any at all, or they were too shallow to hold anything you didn’t want to lose. One pair had a gold zipper at the waistband- a real working metal zipper- with nothing behind it. :smack:

I have one long coat that’s actually a women’s coat. I love it to bits, beautiful black wool and cut like a frock coat with a scarlet silk lining. The only problem is that there are no inside pockets, and the outer pockets are just vestigial flaps. How do women stand it?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/40 "2016-03-09T04:49:44Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> I have one long coat that’s actually a women’s coat. I love it to bits, beautiful black wool and cut like a frock coat with a scarlet silk lining. The only problem is that there are no inside pockets, and the outer pockets are just vestigial flaps. How do women stand it?

Women carry purses.

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