# Your sartorial pet peeves? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 8, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321 "2016-03-08T20:05:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/41 "2016-03-09T04:53:51Z")
> [@TheChileanBlob](#): > > Women’s pants often suffer from crappy pockets. When I used to have to wear black pants to work, I stocked up at the Goodwill. Not one pair had decent pockets. There either weren’t any at all, or they were too shallow to hold anything you didn’t want to lose. One pair had a gold zipper at the waistband- a real working metal zipper- with nothing behind it. :smack: I buy men’s pants for the pockets. I fraking _hate_ carrying a purse. Before I had a baby, I could wear pants from the boys’ department. Now I have to buy men’s and hem them, because a 30 inseam is still too long. At least I own a sewing machine. I have been known to use my sewing machine to add pockets to skirts. Adding them to pants is harder, because they won’t lay right. I tend to buy loose skirts. I even make my own skirts sometimes, and they have tons of brilliant pockets. The worst thing about purses is that when you rarely carry one, it’s easy to forget it. I’ve considered going full-on drag for special occasions, just for the pockets. Among the other annoyances of pregnancy (and they are many), was my inability to wear men’s clothes. I did fine one pair of shorts with pockets, and I think I wore them every single day in August of 2006. ---
**Author:** ![Jake\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Jake\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Jones)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/42 "2016-03-09T05:29:58Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > Also, one word: Polyester. The devil’s fabric. Disagree. Polyester, nylon and other synthetic fabrics are terrible for daily dress or casual clothing, but wonderful for active wear. Polar Fleece jackets, Under Armour golf shirts, polypropylene long johns, synthetic rash guards for ocean and beach clothing? All wonderful stuff. If you’re going to sweat or get wet for any other reason, modern synthetic fabrics kick ass over any natural fabric. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/43 "2016-03-09T05:44:44Z")
> [@seal\_cleaner](#): > > I hate to see guys wearing pants so long that they’re bunched around the shoe. I know off the rack clothing doesn’t always fit just right, but for a few bucks you could have them hemmed. When baseball season starts, watch the pitchers’ uniforms. All but a few pitchers wear their pants so long, they must be walking on them. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/44 "2016-03-09T05:48:09Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > - Men’s dress shirt single breast pocket. Who besides Dilbert carries things in that pocket anymore? I do. My glasses go there when I’m not wearing them. I’m nearsighted, but it’s fairly slight, so I only need my glasses for driving or watching TV / looking at a screen. I’d rather not wear them all the time, and that pocket is perfect for putting them in. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/45 "2016-03-09T06:14:40Z")
Misironed clothing: trousers, either no line or the line has to be completely vertical when you stand up. It shouldn’t be a diagonal and it definitely shouldn’t be twisty. Dresses in styles that would have been starched within a thread of their lives (Hairspray-inspired, say) which look more like the wearer has been rolling around in them. Flipflops at work. Actually, just flipflops… ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/46 "2016-03-09T07:58:57Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > I have been known to use my sewing machine to add pockets to skirts. Adding them to pants is harder, because they won’t lay right. I tend to buy loose skirts. I even make my own skirts sometimes, and they have tons of brilliant pockets. One of the many reasons to love Terry Pratchett books is the wonderful Paul Kidby cover art, which absolutely understands the characters:[the cover of \*I Shall Wear Midnight \* depicts 16 year old witch Tiffany Aching wearing a skirt with pockets.](https://www.jonkers.co.uk/uploads/00043/00043000.jpg?v=1) Because of course she’s busy, and she needs them. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/47 "2016-03-09T11:07:13Z")
The ubiquity of sleeveless tops (or cap-sleeved tops) for women. Listen, fashion industry; we are not all Michelle Obama. Would you please put a real sleeve on the damn tops? I had fat upper arms when I was a skinny kid, and I have them now, too. I don’t want to show them to the world all summer. > [@Sauron](#): > > Brown shoes with gray suits / slacks. I don’t know when that became acceptable from a fashion standpoint, but I can’t get used to it. It’s getting worse. Now men are wearing those orangey-brown shoes with \*\*\*black \*\*\*suits/slacks. Ick. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/48 "2016-03-09T13:05:27Z")
Matching socks. “La-dee-da, look at me! I can make my left foot look like my right foot!” Pretentious fops. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/49 "2016-03-09T14:21:39Z")
> [@j666](#): > > I think it’s a “break”. Actually, I hate dress pants that have no break. I think it looks totally ridiculous. “Hey Mr. Businessman, are you getting ready for a flood?” ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/50 "2016-03-09T14:47:18Z")
Skinny jeans. Not a good look on anyone, even if they are thin. What’s even worse in when they’re worn with totally flat sandals. Speaking of flat shoes, ballet flats look really cute on the shelf but not so much with almost any outfit I see them paired with. Short sleeve suits. I know it’s hot out, especially here in FL, but ladies ,please find something else for your professional look. Ombre hair. It reminds me of when girls used to put Sun In on their hair and how awful it looked when the orange part grew out. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/51 "2016-03-09T15:04:55Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > I buy men’s pants for the pockets. I fraking _hate_ carrying a purse. Before I had a baby, I could wear pants from the boys’ department. Oh my gosh, why didn’t I think of this??? I get pissed off every weekend when I do the laundry and there are like nine pockets on every item of my stepson’s clothes. There’s even a pocket in his bathing suit! But can _I_ ever have a bloody pocket? NOOOOOOOOO! > [@DrCube](#): > > Also, one word: Polyester. The devil’s fabric. I subscribe to a service that sends me clothing, because I’ve pretty much developed a phobia of it (see irrational pocket anger, above) and last month they sent me several blouses that were all 100% polyester. They felt like styrofoam. I sent them back again, with a note that said in essence, “This is Florida, are you trying to kill me? Because dead is what I would be if I went outdoors wearing this shit.” ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/52 "2016-03-09T15:27:54Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Wash them. In the laundry. I did. For years. Ironing while watching TV was actually therapeutic. But who’s got time for that anymore? I’m over that shit. Now it’s: laundered, pressed, no starch, hung (not folded). Brittle buttons are the casualty, but I’m learning to deal. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/53 "2016-03-09T15:40:25Z")
Warms my cold, still heart that folks are debating whether grey suits and brown shoes are fashion forward or a fashion don’t. As with so many things in life, it depends on respective shades of grey and brown. In fact, I just bought a beautiful medium grey suit with a subtle glen check and a very discrete brown stripe. Perfect with a dark brown pair of shoes. But those dark charcoal or black suits with brown shoes - that I just can’t abide. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/54 "2016-03-09T15:54:27Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Actually, I hate dress pants that have no break. I think it looks totally ridiculous. “Hey Mr. Businessman, are you getting ready for a flood?” Yep, and you better hope you have tall socks on when you sit down. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/55 "2016-03-09T16:46:45Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > Fake pockets on waistcoats. A proper fob pocket is unbelievably useful re-purposed to carry your cellphone, but too often they’re just for show, with only about an inch inside. Actually any faux-pocket on a jacket that just consists of a flap covering nothing. I want depth, damn it. If you don’t want me to put stuff in it and mess up the lines, fine, don’t have outer pockets. Most blazers and suit jackets have the pockets sewn shut. This is because the majority of clothes are made overseas and jacket pockets will have less tendency to become misshapen during shipment if they are sewn shut. There are real pockets there. You are supposed to cut out the thread holding the pockets closed to make them accessible. If you have the jacket tailored, the seamstress will normally remove the thread in the pockets, but they don’t always do. ---
**Author:** ![JcWoman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jcwoman/32/2889_2.png) [@JcWoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JcWoman)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/56 "2016-03-09T16:59:36Z")
Before I read anybody else’s I have to add mine: Manufacturers of women’s clothing who space the buttons on shirts too far apart so that you get gapping between the breasts. I’ve tried on so many otherwise gorgeous tops and had to refuse to buy them because of this one silly, stupid flaw. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/57 "2016-03-09T17:28:22Z")
This is completely irrational, I know, but I hate navy blue jackets paired with khaki pants. The only reason that would be acceptable is if you and Muffy are taking the yacht out this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/58 "2016-03-09T18:38:51Z")
The trend among young black men for having their pants hanging off their asses. I have to fight the urge to hit them up side the head every time I see it. A kid down the street passes my house all the time, shuffling along like a woman in a kimono because duh, it’s hard to walk with your pants around your thighs. And then there’s running. An idiot cousin of mine was on the local news. During a traffic stop he did a Rodney King and made a run for it with news copters following. He’s on the eleven o’clock news coming up to a road block and trying to flee on foot - except his pants are hanging off his ass and he trips over them before he makes it three steps. At family barbecues (between incarcerations) he’s always going on about how he’s a budding criminal mastermind that will one day run the state. Uh-huh. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/59 "2016-03-09T18:41:13Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > Big clunky booties or “shooties” (cringe) with tiny peeptoes. I don’t understand those at all. You have to choose one or the other, boots or peep toes. If it is warm enough for your toes to show, it’s too warm for boots. Pick another pair of shoes. > [@Sattua](#): > > Sleeveless “shells” to wear under blazers. Yes, I am a woman, but I am also human. I sweat. I cannot effing wear a sleeveless top under an effing blazer that has to be drycleaned. I love those. I wear them all the time with blazers and don’t really run into that problem. Irrational, but I hate short sleeved, Peter Pan collared blouses for grown women. Hate them. They look like little girls’ clothes. They’re overly twee and cutesy and project an image that says “don’t take me seriously, I’ve dressed like a child.” I want to tell the women who wear them to grow up and buy some damn sleeves. ---
**Author:** ![BetsQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@BetsQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BetsQ)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/60 "2016-03-09T20:02:52Z")
I also like sleeveless shirts under blazers. I find that blazers feel constrictive to start with. If I add sleeves, all I can think about is how bunchy everything is. My sartorial pet peeve is sleeveless dresses that don’t come with lingerie straps. I hate when bra straps get away. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321.md?page=4)