# Your sartorial pet peeves? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 8, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321 "2016-03-08T20:05:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Magicicada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c67d28/32.png) [@Magicicada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magicicada)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/81 "2016-03-10T18:41:34Z")
> [@Sattua](#): > > Sleeveless “shells” to wear under blazers. Yes, I am a woman, but I am also human. I sweat. I cannot effing wear a sleeveless top under an effing blazer that has to be drycleaned. I am not that rich. TRY AGAIN. > > No, antiperspirant doesn’t solve the problem. If you can find them, I would recommend disposable dress shields. You’ll want to put them in the blazer, not the shell. 🙂 (But, yes, I do see your point. Back when I had to wear business style clothes, I made it a point to avoid anything sleeveless if it was white and/or dry clean only.) ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/82 "2016-03-10T19:16:10Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > Those stupid Lululemon tights-as-trousers things. Yoga pants. They look bad on women with nice bodies, they look _really_ bad on everyone else. They’re really just tight sweatpants, and are just as classy as sweatpants. That reminds me of another one:\*\* Leggings are not pants\*\*. I keep trying to convince my 19-year-old co-worker of this, but that’s a losing battle. ---
**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/83 "2016-03-10T19:26:11Z")
For whatever reason, I simply can’t stand the super short jackets worn over the super long shirts that hang down over (or cling to) to one’s derriere. It makes non-fat girls look like they got dressed in the dark and fat girls look horrifying. Basically it flatters no one and hurts my eyes. Make it stop. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/84 "2016-03-10T19:45:12Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > What’s wrong with a good old pair of (properly fitting) Levi’s 501s? Not a thing I can think of. Yum. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/85 "2016-03-10T19:46:36Z")
I can’t stand young girls who dress like Han Solo circa Empire Strikes Back. Leggings, vests, furry boots. Not a good look. ---
**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/86 "2016-03-10T21:13:24Z")
> [@stillownedbysetters](#): > > For whatever reason, I simply can’t stand the super short jackets worn over the super long shirts that hang down over (or cling to) to one’s derriere. It makes non-fat girls look like they got dressed in the dark and fat girls look horrifying. Basically it flatters no one and hurts my eyes. Make it stop. This is what I dropped in to post! I’m with you – this is not a good look for anyone on earth. It gives the impression of wearing a Barbie jacket. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/87 "2016-03-10T22:12:21Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > I can’t stand young girls who dress like Han Solo circa Empire Strikes Back. Leggings, vests, furry boots. Not a good look. Uggs with short shorts in the middle of summer in LA. Ugh is right. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/88 "2016-03-10T22:26:46Z")
Is it really bad to wear socks with sandals? My feet sweat if I wear sandals without socks. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/89 "2016-03-10T22:39:08Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > You make a good point; I too like to see the tush. But I don’t really appreciate the sight of a man in what is essentially denim tights. What’s wrong with a good old pair of (properly fitting) Levi’s 501s? I have heard that Levis have “updated” the cut on what they’re calling 501s these days by reducing the rise. Personally, I switched to Wranglers some years back, as they’re better made and come in normal-rise varieties that sit a centimetre or two below my bellybutton. > [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > Also, if a man’s shorts reach his knees that man is wearing culottes. And that’s a problem? If it wasn’t for long shorts, I wouldn’t wear shorts at all. I’m a skinny guy, my shins have great muscular definition, but I have knobbly knees and my thighs aren’t much to look at. I won’t publicly wear shorts that show too much leg. And I love wearing shorts. I’m wearing shorts right now. Knee length shorts are the most dignified option if you’re not built like a sportsball player. Or even if you are. …but (getting back to the point of this thread) PUSH YOUR SOCKS DOWN! LONG SOCKS WITH SHORTS ARE NOT A GOOD LOOK EVER! The whole point of shorts is ventilation, if your shins are covered you might as well be wearing long trousers. Plus it looks stupid. Push your socks down to the top of your shoes/boots. Scrunch them up. If your shoes and socks fit properly, the socks won’t fall down. On the other hand, those super-short below-the-ankle socks? An abomination. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/90 "2016-03-10T22:41:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Is it really bad to wear socks with sandals? My feet sweat if I wear sandals without socks. Yes, sir, yes it is. Are you saying that your feet get hotter without socks than with? Because that makes no sense… unless you’re wearing plastic sandals like, ugh, Crocs. If you are, please stop. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/91 "2016-03-10T22:43:01Z")
Ah, another one. What happened with pockets on men’s dress shirts. A few days ago, I was at a nice shopping mall. None of the shirts on sale had pockets. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/92 "2016-03-10T22:45:22Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > Yes, sir, yes it is. > > Are you saying that your feet get hotter without socks than with? Because that makes no sense… unless you’re wearing plastic sandals like, ugh, Crocs. If you are, please stop. If my feet sweat, the socks absorb the moisture. The sandals don’t. And no, I wear leather sandals. ---
**Author:** ![Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellis_Aponte_Jr)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/93 "2016-03-11T00:35:05Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > - Shirt buttons that yellow and crumble. You’d think by now clothes manufacturers would come up with a material that dry cleaners could not destroy in a matter of a dozen or so cleaning cycles. I have a problem with shirt buttons that break also. I think what causes this is not the dry cleaning per se, but the pressing of the shirt. Whenever you apply an extremely hot iron to plastic buttons the buttons will be prone to crack. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/94 "2016-03-11T01:04:43Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > …but (getting back to the point of this thread) PUSH YOUR SOCKS DOWN! LONG SOCKS WITH SHORTS ARE NOT A GOOD LOOK EVER! Well, unless you’re[pushing back Rommel in North Africa](http://factory-shops-cape-town-south-africa.blaauwberg.net/uploads/image/bermuda_shorts_image1.jpg). Or banking or practicing law[in Bermuda](https://lacithedog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/bermuda-shorts.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/95 "2016-03-11T01:11:11Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Well, unless you’re[pushing back Rommel in North Africa](http://factory-shops-cape-town-south-africa.blaauwberg.net/uploads/image/bermuda_shorts_image1.jpg). Or banking or practicing law[in Bermuda](https://lacithedog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/bermuda-shorts.jpg). The first, yes. The second looks like a Monty Python skit about flashers. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/96 "2016-03-11T01:44:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Women carry purses. Only because we’re forced to by the lack of useful pockets on our clothes. This is my biggest peeve in clothes meant for women. On the male side, the sagging look. I really do not care to know what color underwear a stranger is wearing, or watch said stranger walking around clutching his crotch so his pants don’t fall any further down. I’m especially unfond of the skinny jeans with saggy butt. That particular look always makes me think there’s an overloaded diaper involved somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/97 "2016-03-11T02:40:49Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > The first, yes. The second looks like a Monty Python skit about flashers. Yes, well said. The Bermudans illustrate my point perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/98 "2016-03-11T15:05:32Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Ah, another one. What happened with pockets on men’s dress shirts. A few days ago, I was at a nice shopping mall. None of the shirts on sale had pockets. The makers must have read the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Potestas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/50afbb/32.png) [@Potestas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Potestas)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/99 "2016-03-11T15:14:59Z")
Fat people who are unwilling to go to the gym or make the effort to get skinny ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/100 "2016-03-11T15:19:24Z")
> [@Potestas](#): > > Fat people who are unwilling to go to the gym or make the effort to get skinny That’s not really “sartorial.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321.md?page=6)