# Your sartorial pet peeves?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 8, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321 "2016-03-08T20:05:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Potestas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/50afbb/32.png) [@Potestas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Potestas)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/101 "2016-03-11T17:10:56Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> That’s not really “sartorial.”

Well I don’t even know what the word means lol

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/102 "2016-03-11T17:44:36Z")

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[Let me google that for you…](http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sartorial)

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**Author:** ![CGav8r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@CGav8r](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CGav8r)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/103 "2016-03-11T17:48:40Z")

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I prefer trousers with a slight break, and can even take no brake (but still covering the laces of the shoe), but a man wearing trousers that show a gap between his shoes and trouser hem looks idiotic to me. Doubly so if he is in a suit with a pair of double monks and no socks…an iGent favorite.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/104 "2016-03-11T21:11:42Z")

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> [@Potestas](#):
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> Fat people who are unwilling to go to the gym or make the effort to get skinny

You mean the way you can’t be bothered to learn what “sartorial” means?

Why do you care if someone else isn’t skinny? After all, doesn’t it make you look that much better if they aren’t?

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**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/105 "2016-03-11T22:01:12Z")

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What really bugs me about mens’ suits lately is that “too small” look and the flood pants (way too short)

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/106 "2016-03-12T00:19:47Z")

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Skinny jeans. They should be sold with a warning sticker that says, “Yes, these jeans _do_ make your ass look big.”

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/107 "2016-03-12T00:31:12Z")

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In the great film _The Descendants_ (2011), set in Hawaii, George Clooney makes the observation that in the 50th state, even millionaires dress like hoboes. And it’s true! The only suit I can recall ever seeing was worn one time only by a Thai student who was graduating from UH and his parents had flown in for the ceremony. Even the bankers wear Aloha shirts.

Contrast that with Thailand, where the climate is much more brutal and men will wear suits to show off their power. They’ll sweat like pigs after moments outdoors, but they’re letting everyone know they are important enough to be ensconced in air conditioning most of the time. It’s largely just politicians and bankers and other high-powered businessmen. The men’s suit is probably the worst development to hit this part of the world, completely impractical, and I consider it a major fashion faux pas.

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/108 "2016-03-12T12:17:29Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Do you live in a place that only has black people? Showing the slit in the moneymaker has been multicolored for over a decade…

[Here’s](http://www.bronxjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/saggypants.jpg) what I’m referring to. I lived in Chicago until last year, so pretty multicultural, and never saw another race doing this to that extent (entire buttocks exposed) outside of when Justin Beiber was called out on it.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/109 "2016-03-12T14:43:37Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Well, unless you’re[pushing back Rommel in North Africa](http://factory-shops-cape-town-south-africa.blaauwberg.net/uploads/image/bermuda_shorts_image1.jpg). Or banking or practicing law[in Bermuda](https://lacithedog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/bermuda-shorts.jpg).

The looks kind of cute from the front, but from the side? Doesn’t any one have 3-way mirror?

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Matching socks. “La-dee-da, look at me! I can make my left foot look like my right foot!” Pretentious fops.

This did not go unappreciated.

> [@Potestas](#):
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> Well I don’t even know what the word means lol

And, of course, ill-informed people who will not look up a word or make the effort to improve their vocabularies, or even, for that matter, figure out what the conversation is about.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-sartorial-pet-peeves/748321/110 "2016-03-12T14:49:43Z")

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> [@Mallard](#):
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> What really bugs me about mens’ suits lately is that “too small” look and the flood pants (way too short)

It’s a mixed blessing, that by this point in life the shape of my body is such that no self-respecting menswear salesman would suggest “slim fit” suits as it would be an obvious insult to my intelligence.

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