# "'Your son has killed two kafirs. I slit their throats with a dagger'"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 3, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035 "2016-02-03T06:32:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/41 "2016-02-03T16:02:13Z")

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Are we to assume **Truthseeker1** was also a casualty in this war on terror?

As always

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/42 "2016-02-03T16:09:08Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> A well known tactic of asking leading and misleading questions designed to smear the other party. And of course, claiming to be completely innocent because, after all, one is “just asking questions”.
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> See also: JAQing off.

Ah! consider me informed. (and just to say that my initial post certainly wasn’t using that tactic)

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/43 "2016-02-03T16:10:07Z")

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> [@ElderSign](#):
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> Most of the people in this thread who are accusing Truthseeker2 of being close-minded and wrong to group people based on a religion that preaches violence do their own sorts of grouping as well. For some reason, his hate is illogical while theirs is justified.
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> For some reason I doubt they would rush to defend Mormonism as they defend Islam time and again.

Yeah, highly unlikely that we’ll see **Monty** defending Mormonism.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/44 "2016-02-03T16:34:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Nasir: We were taken in big SUV cars. Landcruiser dropped us on the border.

First the Duke lacrosse players and their SUVs, and now this.

Is there any doubt that SUVs are the root of all evil?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/45 "2016-02-03T17:00:20Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Ah, a current events Pit thread, cool concept. Hey, did you hear the one about the American college boy who is accused of luring a 13 year old girl from her room at night, then stabbing her (who knows what he did to her before stabbing her to death), and dumping her body like a piece of trash?

That shows the true face of American college boys.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/46 "2016-02-03T17:04:59Z")

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> [@ElderSign](#):
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> For some reason I doubt they would rush to defend Mormonism as they defend Islam time and again.

Well, of course not! Mormonism is fuckin’ **nuts!** 😉

And no cheerful, glassy-eyed, annoyingly clean-cut Muslim missionary in short sleeves and a tie ever knocked on my door.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/47 "2016-02-03T17:06:00Z")

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> [@casdave](#):
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> Are we to assume **Truthseeker1** was also a casualty in this war on terror?

The first **Truth Seeker** ( a good poster ) I believe was a casualty of a far more insidious conflict back in 2004 - pay to post ;).

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/48 "2016-02-03T17:06:13Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, of course not! Mormonism is fuckin’ **nuts!** 😉
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> And no cheerful, glassy-eyed, annoyingly clean-cut Muslim missionary in short sleeves and a tie ever knocked on my door.

You misspelled tent.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/49 "2016-02-03T17:07:08Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> But make no mistakes about the fact that Islam is a poison for society, and for the world.

Many people on the board agree with you.

They would phrase it as “religion is a poison for society,” though, because their agreement arises from a belief that includes almost all religion, not simply Islam. They would object to your phrasing, since it suggests an objection only to Islam.

I don’t agree with them, or you. I think Muslims are theologically in error, but not “poison,” in any meaningful way. And of course I argue that Christianity is a positive influence on the world.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/50 "2016-02-03T17:22:46Z")

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I’m not familiar with the incident described. But I just took a look at the article. Does anyone know where this transcript came from? Was the attacker’s home phone being bugged, or was the jeweler’s phone set to record calls or something? Because the transcript shows the uncle starting the recording in the middle of the transcript. Who was recording the conversation up to that point? The article doesn’t say where they got the transcript – was the existence of a transcript already known and discussed in the media prior to this article?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/51 "2016-02-03T17:25:30Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Ah! consider me informed. (and just to say that my initial post certainly wasn’t using that tactic)

Ah, but have you stopped masturbating to pictures of Dannie DeVito yet?

😉

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/52 "2016-02-03T17:28:10Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Just wanted to show the mindset of cancerous Islamic terrorism and the face of true Islam.

You mean “Islamism”, not Islam. They’re two completely different things. Islam is a religion. Islamism is a political movement often accompanied by violent jihadism. I suggest that you read the book _Radical_, by Maajid Nawaz before you post more nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/53 "2016-02-03T18:10:17Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> the face of _true Islam_.

Is sugared porridge halal?

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**Author:** ![TheFaerie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TheFaerie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheFaerie)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/54 "2016-02-03T18:10:32Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I’m not familiar with the incident described. But I just took a look at the article. Does anyone know where this transcript came from? Was the attacker’s home phone being bugged, or was the jeweler’s phone set to record calls or something? Because the transcript shows the uncle starting the recording in the middle of the transcript. Who was recording the conversation up to that point? The article doesn’t say where they got the transcript – was the existence of a transcript already known and discussed in the media prior to this article?

I was wondering the same thing actually… Do they have a recording device that picks up sound from 30 seconds ago, cuz that would be truly amazing!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/55 "2016-02-03T18:13:11Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I suggest that you read the book _Radical_, by Maajid Nawaz before you post more nonsense.

I’m guessing that the “before” is literally accurate; the idea that the OP might educate himself _instead of_ posting more nonsense is probably too much to hope for.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/56 "2016-02-03T19:46:38Z")

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> [@TheFaerie](#):
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> I was wondering the same thing actually… Do they have a recording device that picks up sound from 30 seconds ago, cuz that would be truly amazing!

I suppose there could be some kind of recording app on a smart phone that has a 30-second buffer or something. It’s always buffering and just saves from then forward when you hit the record button, maybe? I dunno.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/57 "2016-02-03T20:18:05Z")

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> [@truthSeeker2](#):
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> Again, all there is to be said is one should differentiate between Islam and Muslims as people. Terrorism/Jihad is part of core Islam. Love and respect Muslims at an individual level as much as non-Muslims. But make no mistakes about the fact that Islam is a poison for society, and for the world.

Thanks very much for the info. I of course had no clue about any of this until you came along. So, what practical steps are _you_, personally, taking to eliminate this ‘poison’ from our society? I’m only asking because if moaning about it on an anonymous message board is your sole contribution, it seems pretty weak to me. Just saying.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/58 "2016-02-03T22:02:52Z")

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> [@TheFaerie](#):
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> I was wondering the same thing actually… Do they have a recording device that picks up sound from 30 seconds ago, cuz that would be truly amazing!

I couldn’t help but be impressed how articulate they both were in a time of incredible stress! If someone had a transcript of any of MY calls there would be a few words missed due to my occasional mumbling, and that’s without the adrenaline rush of having committed an unspeakable act!

> **[2016 Pathankot attack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Pathankot_attack)**
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> On January 2 2016, 4 militants belonging to Islamic terrorist United Jihad Council attacked the Indian Air Force's  
> Pathankot Airbase, part of its Western Air Command.
> Four attackers and two security forces personnel were killed in the initial battle, with an additional security force member dying from injuries hours later. The gun battle and the subsequent combing operation lasted about 17 hours on 2 January, resulting in five attackers and three security personnel dead. Further three soldie...

Here’s a wiki on the attack. From what I gather they are saying, all the deaths were from gunshots or explosives. Maybe I don’t read so well. Maybe they got the story wrong. Maybe they just haven’t found they guys with their throats slit. Or maybe…

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/59 "2016-02-03T22:56:55Z")

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> [@OneCentStamp](#):
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> Sleeper cell?

Dial-up and an AOL disc

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-son-has-killed-two-kafirs-i-slit-their-throats-with-a-dagger/745035/60 "2016-02-04T00:51:55Z")

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"Nasir, you never listen! I asked you to go next door and take care of those hayfevered asthmatic chain-smokers who keep me up every night! I asked you to kill those two coughers! **Coughers!"** :smack:

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