# Your teenager committed suicide? It's your fault. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 11, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446 "2010-01-11T00:17:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/1 "2010-01-11T00:17:45Z")
It’s true. In [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=547194), Condescending Robot proves that all teenage suicides are caused by the parents being too religious or athletic(I don’t know either) to notice the warning signs of the mental illness they have caused by not tolerating their kids’ gayness: > [@Tony Dungy is a loathsome charlatan](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-dungy-is-a-loathsome-charlatan/524355/11): > > Yeah, I would say something in the neighborhood of 100% of suicides _by teenagers_ are due to either family rejection for sexual or religious identity issues, or parents too stupid/religious to recognize and get treatment for the symptoms of depression. > [@Tony Dungy is a loathsome charlatan](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-dungy-is-a-loathsome-charlatan/524355/48): > > Are you some sort of Scientologist or something? Where you think mental illness comes from? It’s not because someone’s trying to be rebellious and show up their parents, and it’s not because people just decide to kill themselves because they heard a Black Sabbath song. Depression is an actual illness which can be actually treated by people who don’t believe in demonic possession or in doing squat-thrusts to overcome biochemical problems; the people who are least likely to get treatment for it as teenagers are those whose parents reject the scientific facts about disease, which happens due to either ignorance, religion, or apathy. > [@Tony Dungy is a loathsome charlatan](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tony-dungy-is-a-loathsome-charlatan/524355/55): > > Yep, I’ll stand by that. If you don’t know that your kid is depressed or you’re too blinded by outmoded ways of thinking to properly treat him, it’s largely your fault when he kills himself. And that’s usually what happens (again, combined with a healthy dose of kicking people out of the family for being gay). So there we have it. Depression and other mental illness is easy to spot, and is caused by bad families. It’s also probably because the kid is gay. I just have to say, it must be nice to live in a stepford children world where all mental illness is easily diagnosable, and we can easily assign blame to the parents. But in the world we live in, the signs are not always obvious or easy to spot, suicidal ideation can come on suddenly and can be caused by drugs used to treat other issues, and mental health issues are not quickly and easily treated by just taking the proper pill. **Condescending Robot** is an utter cretin, and I sincerely hope that he someday gets to tell a room full of grieving parents (maybe at a funeral) that they just weren’t paying enough attention and that this could have been prevented if you just tried harder. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/2 "2010-01-11T00:56:25Z")
The thread’s already in the pit. You have to clutter it up with your stupid bullshit, you stupid bullshitter? This is valuable real estate. I don’t have to read this fucking bullshit. This place is going to fucking hell. Move this shit to MPSIMS. No, fuck that. Move it to a Dora the Explorer forum. Move it to _hell_. I’m in charge around here. I’m fucking important, and you suck. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/3 "2010-01-11T00:58:02Z")
Yep, Robot is a moron, no question about it. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/4 "2010-01-11T00:59:54Z")
Wow, Jimmy Chitwood is a moron too! Wait, I am starting to get a sneaking suspicion that you are all morons. ivn1188, moron Jimmy Chitwood, moron. Condescending Robot, moron. I am beginning to see a pattern ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/5 "2010-01-11T01:01:25Z")
The only person on this board I am not sure about is [Zeke N. Destroi](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=547185), he seems pretty on top of things. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/6 "2010-01-11T01:04:19Z")
Thank you for posting that in the pit, LG. You are LITERALLY RUINING MY LIFE. ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/7 "2010-01-11T01:09:06Z")
Hrm, monkeys like **Jimmy Chitwood** always impress. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/8 "2010-01-11T01:14:03Z")
I’m sorry. Am I, I don’t know, ruining your thread? ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/9 "2010-01-11T01:22:47Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > I’m sorry. Am I, I don’t know, ruining your thread? No. I don’t give a shit if you “ruin the thread”. I’m sort of offended by your compulsive ignorance, but it’s too much for me to expect you to do anything about that. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/10 "2010-01-11T01:58:57Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > I’m in charge around here. I’m fucking important, and you suck. Can I use that as a sig line? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/11 "2010-01-11T02:21:19Z")
Nothing to see here, move along. Moron convention in progress. ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/12 "2010-01-11T02:32:58Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Nothing to see here, move along. Moron convention in progress. I have your nametag right here. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/13 "2010-01-11T02:37:26Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Nothing to see here, move along. Moron convention in progress. Damnit Boyo, they accidently sent both you AND me an invitation? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/14 "2010-01-11T03:50:05Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > I have your nametag right here. Leave me out of this! ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/15 "2010-01-11T03:52:26Z")
> [@Nametag](#): > > Leave me out of this! Damnit, they got thier list mixed up with the asshole convention too 🙂 Who’s running this damn show anyway? ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/16 "2010-01-11T04:51:46Z")
I think J.C. said he was. Which way is the bar? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/17 "2010-01-11T04:55:18Z")
> [@Nametag](#): > > Leave me out of this! Shuddup, you belong to me now. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/18 "2010-01-11T05:30:16Z")
No matter how you abuse me, you cannot make me say “Hello, my name is…” ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/19 "2010-01-11T05:34:19Z")
> [@Nametag](#): > > No matter how you abuse me, you cannot make me say “Hello, my name is…” Can you make one for ivn that says [I Sort Glass](http://isortglass.com/)? ---
**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446/20 "2010-01-11T05:49:58Z")
Well, at first I was going to give **Robot** the benefit of the doubt and chalk up his 100% statistic to hyperbole, but given his other comments, I have to agree with \*\*IVN. Robot’s \*\*assessment is simplistic at best. I think most parents try to do the best they can by their children, but they aren’t mind readers. My parents to this day don’t know the extent of my depression. They know I’m on medication for it and that I go to therapy, but they don’t know how often I’ve thought about suicide in the past. I’ve chosen to put on a happy face for them, mostly because they have their own health problems to deal with (Dad has leukemia) and I don’t want to add to their burden. Kids are great at lying and concealing things from their parents, including mental and other health problems. I know. I’ve done (and still do) it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-teenager-committed-suicide-its-your-fault/524446.md?page=2)