# Your thoughts on PEDs and baseball
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-thoughts-on-peds-and-baseball/578014
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [April 11, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-thoughts-on-peds-and-baseball/578014 "2011-04-11T22:24:48Z")
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### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-thoughts-on-peds-and-baseball/578014/21 "2011-04-12T15:22:40Z")
> [@ReticulatingSplines](#):
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> But since when is unequal application categorically unfair? Is it unfair when a drunk driver gets pulled over at a random checkpoint while lots of other people are driving drunk on other roads at other times with inpunity in a culture that encourages drinking?
The purpose of checkpoints is to prosecute transgressors. The purpose of the 2003 testing was to gather information. And while you could argue that our culture encourages drinking, law enforcement certainly does not. And for a very long time, MLB turned a very aware blind eye to PED use.
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### Author:  [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-thoughts-on-peds-and-baseball/578014/22 "2011-04-12T15:26:07Z")
> [@Munch](#):
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> The purpose of checkpoints is to prosecute transgressors. The purpose of the 2003 testing was to gather information. And while you could argue that our culture encourages drinking, law enforcement certainly does not. And for a very long time, MLB turned a very aware blind eye to PED use.
Right, but I’m not talking about the 2003 test. I can see that as analogous to inadmissible evidence. Wasn’t this discussion sparked by Manny Ramirez?
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### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-thoughts-on-peds-and-baseball/578014/23 "2011-04-12T15:34:04Z")
> [@ReticulatingSplines](#):
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> Right, but I’m not talking about the 2003 test. I can see that as analogous to inadmissible evidence. Wasn’t this discussion sparked by Manny Ramirez?
It was, but it’s extended to people that were not caught before the current testing standards were put in place (Clemens, Bonds, etc.).
But as for Manny (2003 report, plus caught two times in the last couple years), I still don’t have a problem voting him in. I also throw the 2003 results out as “inadmissible evidence”, and view the other two as desperate attempts to extend a career that would have still merited HOF induction if he’d have retired 5 years ago.
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