# Your TV "holy grails"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 18, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099 "2012-03-18T01:41:06Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/81 "2012-03-19T19:43:06Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> Were you born around 1970? That sounds an awful lot like an episode of \*House Calls \*with Wayne Rogers and Lynn Redgrave back in the day.
> 
> The episode I recall didn’t have the family coming back, though. The parents pulled their son out of the hospital and Ray Buktenica’s character tracked them down to their house, with Wayne Rogers close behind. By the time Rogers got there, Buktenica was emerging from the house, genuinely perplexed. Behind him came the family along with the son, now completely healthy. Rogers asked if they’d gotten another doctor. “Best one in the world,” replied the father.
> 
> It creeped me out a little, too.
> 
> I’m at work and I can’t get IMDB, but that episode shouldn’t be too hard to find.

I was born in exactly 1970. That sounds like it could very well be it! I may be misremembering them coming back to the hospital. The way you describe it actually sounds pretty familiar.

I’ll look it up. Thanks!

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/82 "2012-03-19T20:30:44Z")

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In the early 1980’s music videos were just starting out and MTV hadn’t quite had their first broadcast. In San Diego, a local TV station and a local radio station set aside an hour for KGB Rocks 10 to show about 40 minutes of videos (with commercials in between). At that time, Styx was putting out its Kilroy Was Here album and issuing the already obligatory music videos. The show on Channel 10 would broadcast one of video from the album each week.

I’d love to find a compilation of those videos. They told the story better than Caught In the Act, which was the live capture of the Kilroy concerts. Once in a while I browse through the Music sections of on-line video distrubutors but I’ve never seen the collection, or even any singles.

YouTube perhaps?

–G?

You say “It’s the luck of the draw  
And you can’t have it all…”  
. --Tommy Shaw (Styx)  
. _Cold War_  
. Kilroy Was Here

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/83 "2012-03-19T21:02:56Z")

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The 1960’s _Batman_ starring Adam West, has never been released on DVD. I refuse to buy a pirated copy from a criminal.  
Sad.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/84 "2012-03-19T21:17:47Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> 4- The Time Tunnel- 1960s sci-fi

First season free on [hulu.](http://www.hulu.com/the-time-tunnel?c=Science-Fiction)

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/85 "2012-03-19T21:22:06Z")

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> [@Corcaigh](#):
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> Nope, Shatner wasn’t in the movie I saw - I’d have recognised him 🙂
> 
> I believe there is a similar Twilight Zone episode, but this was a full length movie.
> 
> I’ll have to ask around and see if anyone remembers the title of it…

I think your memory is playing you false – Richard Basehart AND Shatner were in the 1970 tv movie, which has one guy die under the tail section. Despite the claims of that other thread, there’s no 1982 film listing, but imdb gives both Basehart and Shatner in the 1970 film.

I;'ve seen it, and the Twilight Zone episode with Bob Cummings.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/86 "2012-03-19T21:30:28Z")

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I could have sworn that there was this early morning kids show in the mid to late seventies. I can find nothing about it on IMDB or Wiki. Must be remembering something wrong.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/87 "2012-03-19T21:39:39Z")

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“Star Wars Holiday Special”. Missed it the first time although I saw a 10 minute youtube compilation, just to give enough to show that Lucas is either a shameless money grubber or a stoned cokehead to allow this.

In his farewell show Johnny Carson mentioned that none of the “Tonight Show” broadcasts in New York City in the 1960s survive. He mentioned a Boris Karloff/Jayne Mansfield show that was especially memorable. What on earth did those two talk about?

There was a kids cartoon in the early 1960s called “Space Angel”. Nine episodes have been released but not the full run. I especially the one when new recruits are asked to name their home planet, one drawls “Texas” and later when pursued by the enemy spacecraft “Let’s play hide and seek in the rings of Saturn”.

Walter Cronkite once mentioned that the 1948 conventions one (or both) parties let TV cameras backstage to record what was really going on. Nowadays conventions carefully choreographed advertisements but apparently back then they were more like politics are really practiced.

I don’t think any of the games of the Montreal Canadiens 1971 Stanley Cup run survive, the epic first round upset of the champion Bruins (7 of the 10 top scorers) or the dramatic game 7  
of the final when Henri Richard, after feuding with his “stupid English pig” head coach Al MacNeil, scored the tying winning goals. At least they weren’t on the Canadiens 10 greatest games or Game 7 Stanley Cup DVD (they have some highlights). Rumor has it the Boston TV station saved the first.

I understand a new 5 1/2 hour version of Adel Ganz’s silent film “Napoleon” is being shown in some theatres. I have a copy of the three hour Coppola version from the 1980s and it is magnificent. Let’s hope for a DVD release.

The Rolling Stones are concerned about their image to restrict the showing of “Cocksucker Blues”? Really, Mick and Keef, when did you go Pat Boone on us?

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/88 "2012-03-20T03:04:09Z")

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> The Rolling Stones are concerned about their image to restrict the showing of “Cocksucker Blues”? Really, Mick and Keef, when did you go Pat Boone on us?

Apparently it got out somehow.  
https://www.youtube.com/embed/xxJWMCEhBpQ?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/89 "2012-03-20T03:04:41Z")

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> [@Sam\_A.Robrin](#):
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> There was a psychic-investigation show called _E.S.P._ sometime in the 1970s. Internet’s being dodgy during a local thunderstorm, so I can’t find a reference, but that may be what you’re looking for. “SST” was the SuperSonic Transport airplane that caused some environmental controversy around the same time.

Oooh, a clue. Off to YouTube to investigate.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/90 "2012-03-20T03:18:40Z")

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> [@BMalion](#):
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> The 1960’s _Batman_ starring Adam West, has never been released on DVD. I refuse to buy a pirated copy from a criminal.  
> Sad.

It is now running on “MeTV” which is shown on one of my local .2 stations.

> **[MeTV – America's #1 Classic Television Network](https://www.metv.com/)**
>
> Watch MeTV for memorable entertainment television from America's #1 classic television network. Airing over 50 different classic TV series each week, from drama and comedy to westerns and sci fi, MeTV is available nationwide for free with an antenna,...

There is also “My Network TV:” (on another .2) that shows Futurama, and “This TV” which shows Sea Hunt and really obscure moves (on a .3 channel)

Brian

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/91 "2012-03-20T05:48:47Z")

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AfterMASH. It gets a lot of hate, but somehow, I remember liking it when I was watching it, and quite frankly, my M_A_S\*H DVD collection feels a little incomplete without it, even if it wasn’t that great. I’d love for it to be released on DVD one of these days.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/92 "2012-03-20T06:06:23Z")

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[Delta House](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_House)

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/93 "2012-03-20T06:26:27Z")

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Mine used to be the Mysterious Cities of Gold. An anime series that was very popular in the UK in the eighties - at least, pretty much everyone I’ve mentioned it to in those ‘favourite kids’ TV shows’ chats knows it and can remember some of the theme tune - but for a long time it wasn’t available on DVD (it is now). My ex eventually tracked down an ebay seller who’d transferred it all to DVD from VHS. It was still excellent, and my daughter loved it too.

> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Then there’s Water Babies.

Do you mean [this Waterbabies](http://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Babies-Region-Import-NTSC/dp/B00007GZR9/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1332224540&sr=8-3), loosely based on the Charles Kingsley novel? One of my favourite movies as a kid, but I saw it again several years ago and it did not stand the test of time.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/94 "2012-03-20T06:42:30Z")

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The very first Columbo. 8 years before Peter Falk took the role there was an episode of an anthology mystery series with the same character, played by Bert Freed. I’d love to see it.

> **[Columbo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbo#First_generation)**
>
> Columbo (/kəˈlʌmboʊ/) is an American crime drama television series starring Peter Falk as Lieutenant Columbo, a homicide detective with the Los Angeles Police Department. After two pilot episodes in 1968 and 1971, the show originally aired on NBC from 1971 to 1978 as one of the rotating programs of The NBC Mystery Movie. Columbo then aired less frequently on ABC from 1989 to 2003.
> Columbo is a shrewd and intelligent blue-collar homicide detective whose trademarks include his rumpled beige rai...

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/95 "2012-03-20T09:58:14Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> It is now running on “MeTV” which is shown on one of my local .2 stations.  
> [http://metvnetwork.com/](http://metvnetwork.com/)  
> …  
> Brian

not the same thing.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/96 "2012-03-20T10:00:58Z")

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No copies are known to exist of the TV broadcast of Super Bowl I, even though it was broadcast on two networks, but you never know what might pop up somewhere.

Not exactly TV broadcasts, but some concert venues in the 70s-80s had in-house camera crews that shot professional video of many concerts. Particularly Winterland in SF, the Summit in Houston and Capital Center in DC. KISS and AC/DC have released concerts from some of these venues on DVD, but there’s probably a gold mine of video that has never seen the light of day. Unless they were recorded over. Come to think of it, I’ve heard that a lot of the Winterland tapes were lost in a fire, though many are still around.

ETA: Speaking of concert videos, I remember seeing Van Halen on their first tour with Sammy Hagar around 1986ish at the San Diego Sports Arena. The show was professionally taped for an MTV special, but the tape was stolen that night, so tape of the next night was used on MTV. AFAIK, the tape of the first night has never surfaced, not even in bootleg circles.

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Mine was an ABC kids series called [Make A Wish](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_a_Wish_(TV_series)), which featured Harry Chapin’s brother Tom spinning out hippy-dippy songs and puns over animation. It might not be as good as I remembered, but I’d certainly like the chance to watch it again.

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I remember that one. The last guy was under the tail section, which had broken off the rest of the plane.
> 
> eta: Checked the link. I was right.

I must have been six or seven when this movie was broadcast but I still clearly remember it - the crew playing baseball to pass the time, them crashlanding in the desert thinking it was the ocean, and the one guy who bailed out early. But what really stuck with me was the end.

The ghost of the guy who was trapped under the tail section is left alone in the desert when they can’t recover his body.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/99 "2012-03-20T11:01:11Z")

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Found it online, [Sole Survivor](Full movie online: [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7574338161920794843](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7574338161920794843))

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-tv-holy-grails/616099/100 "2012-03-20T11:38:24Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I think your memory is playing you false – Richard Basehart AND Shatner were in the 1970 tv movie, which has one guy die under the tail section. Despite the claims of that other thread, there’s no 1982 film listing, but imdb gives both Basehart and Shatner in the 1970 film.

The film I’m talking about isn’t on IMDB, and there were no survivors - there is one survivor in the Shatner film, which is on YouTube and isn’t the movie I saw.

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