# You're a fine example of a cop dude. Really.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 2, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669 "2010-06-02T17:11:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/181 "2010-06-09T16:15:36Z")

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> [@Roland\_Orzabal](#):
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> Eh, if you’re gonna get one-upped, might as well be by **VT**.
> 
> Dickgarage.

Sorry. I saw your post on preview, but it was too late to get the sarcasm back into the tube.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/182 "2010-06-09T16:19:39Z")

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> [@Roland\_Orzabal](#):
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> See, this is how it starts; you’re headed out for a two-hour drive, and you have a headache, and you think “well, I’ll just pop an aspirin before I go…hell, make it two,” and then before you know it, you’ve downed half the fucking bottle, and now you’re on the road all [nauseous and vomiting and having seizures and cerebral edemas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirin_poisoning) and shit.
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> Take some responsibility, people. Jesus.

To say nothing of the dangers of tacos themselves. Sure, you get yourself a couple of tacos. And then you eat the tacos. And you just want more. So you eat more tacos. And then you add a milkshake to lubricate your craw so you can get more tacos in there. And then you realize, you’re racing down the highway at 150 mph projectile vomiting from all those fucking tacos and milkshakes, and you don’t even know where the hospital is, but you need to get there _right damn now_.

Yes. I think we can all agree. You shouldn’t do stuff and then drive.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/183 "2010-06-09T16:29:23Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> She? \*\*Uzi \*\*is female?

That’s the assumption I’ve been going on. Am I wrong?

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/184 "2010-06-09T16:33:47Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> That’s the assumption I’ve been going on. Am I wrong?

Well, the overuse of emotional, melodramatic language would seem to indicate **Uzi** being a member of the fairer sex.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/185 "2010-06-09T16:57:54Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> [http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-05-04/news/the-nypd-tapes-inside-bed-stuy-s-81st-precinct/1](http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-05-04/news/the-nypd-tapes-inside-bed-stuy-s-81st-precinct/1)
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> This is worth reading, all three articles in the series. There’s several kinds of harassment, institutionalized, listed here. In a big city. Thing is, if you’re mildly lucky, it won’t be _serious_, the charges won’t be filed, but it’ll still mess your week up.

Oh I am _well_ aware of the routine harassment cops in my county, as well as other counties, employ. When I first started working in criminal defense I used to think these crazy stories my clients told me _had_ to be made up. I mean, how bored does a cop have to be to pull the same guy over multiple times in a week? How can a cop steal money from someone’s wallet as they book them into the jail? How could a cop refuse to drug test someone in the jail after arresting them for being under the influence, then lie on the police report about that person’s “refusal” to take said test? After about 6 months on the job I realized this shit really _does_ happen. It’s depressing and infuriating. The worst part of it is the alarming reluctance on the part of the courts in doing anything about it.

I was doing a hearing just a few weeks back where the cop did nothing short of admit on the stand that he was harassing my client. Cross examination revealed this cop to have a total hard-on for my client, for whatever reason. Nonethless, the judge made a point of reading a three page long decision on the record, not only denying my motion to suppress, but kissing the cop’s ass in the process. So not only were my client’s constitutional rights stomped on, he had to sit through a judicial tounge bath of the cop, then watch that same cop smirk at us as he left the courtroom.

And people wonder why cops continue to act the way they do.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/186 "2010-06-09T17:21:37Z")

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> [@MTCicero](#):
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> Well, the overuse of emotional, melodramatic language would seem to indicate **Uzi** being a member of the fairer sex.

That’s exactly the kind of misogynist bilge I’d expect you to spew.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/187 "2010-06-09T17:27:20Z")

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**lezlers** , your posts make me even more terrified of the police than I already was. This thread and the one about laws being passed making it illegal to film cops on duty are both making me paranoid.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/188 "2010-06-09T17:33:05Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> That’s exactly the kind of misogynist bilge I’d expect you to spew.

And your predictable response probably makes it more likely to recur. This is the Pit, where the point is to piss off the people you hate. He’s succeeding, but you probably aren’t.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/189 "2010-06-09T17:35:41Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> **lezlers** , your posts make me even more terrified of the police than I already was. This thread and the one about laws being passed making it illegal to film cops on duty are both making me paranoid.

My solution is to live in such a small community far enough away from the center that the cops have no reason to come by. And, due to being a small town, I know the cops personally anyways.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/190 "2010-06-09T17:40:16Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> Oddly enough, no matter how much water or pop the average person is capable of drinking it seldom leads to them being more of a danger on the road.

Unless they’re barreling down the Interstate at 70 mph and suddenly feel the urge to pee like a motherfuck. 😃

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/191 "2010-06-09T17:47:42Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> My solution is to live in such a small community far enough away from the center that the cops have no reason to come by. And, due to being a small town, I know the cops personally anyways.

I live in the same sort of environment and there are pros and cons. When I was pulled over by a local cop at 3 am with manufactured probable cause (he said I did not stop completely at a stop sign. In reality I stopped and sat long enough to check through radio stations) I complained to the chief of police. He told me he would investigate without telling the cop that I complained. Everytime I see that cop now, he glares at me.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/192 "2010-06-09T17:58:35Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> That’s exactly the kind of misogynist bilge I’d expect you to spew.

Don’t mind MTCicero. She gets a bit punchy at the end of a multi-page thread.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/193 "2010-06-09T18:29:02Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> Why would I assume that beer on tap is any different? He didn’t say he was getting a bottle, nor what size it was.

Exactly right, except for the part where he said:

> [@Shakes](#):
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> So I take the beer, **that I haven’t even opened yet** , and throw it away.

(Bolding mine.)

I have not yet encountered a draft beer that I had to open.

But why let reading comprehension get in the way of righteous indignation?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/194 "2010-06-09T18:43:39Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> \<snip\>
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> In the bigger cities, there’s a little more leeway. I’d say to be wary of about 60% of the cops. They tend to have more serious crime to keep them occupied and are a little less likely to harass Tommy the Tweaker every time they see him walking down the street.\<snip\>

My experience being a very mild-mannered, completely non-threatening suburban housewife type is that cops are indeed dicks. I haven’t had many interactions with cops, but most of the ones I have had, the city cops started off with a bad attitude and anything I said made it worse.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/195 "2010-06-09T19:09:16Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I live in the same sort of environment and there are pros and cons. When I was pulled over by a local cop at 3 am with manufactured probable cause (he said I did not stop completely at a stop sign. In reality I stopped and sat long enough to check through radio stations) I complained to the chief of police. He told me he would investigate without telling the cop that I complained. Everytime I see that cop now, he glares at me.

Try getting a speeding ticket from the same cop you cross examined the previous day. Coincidence?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/196 "2010-06-09T19:42:27Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Don’t mind MTCicero. She gets a bit punchy at the end of a multi-page thread.

In retrospect, I also may be conflating \*\*MT \*\*with someone who made some similarly retarded comment in another thread about passive-aggressiveness being an exclusively female trait. If it wasn’t the same poster, my apologies. (For the conflation, not for thinking the post in this thread was fucking retarded.)

ETA: Yeah, sorry **MT** , [that was **Happy Poster**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12506946&postcount=69).

> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> I have not yet encountered a draft beer that I had to open.

MAYBE THEY SELL GROWLERS. MAYBE THE OP WAS ABOUT TO DRINK A WHOLE FUCKING JUG OF BEER. BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE DO.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/197 "2010-06-09T20:00:24Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> MAYBE THEY SELL GROWLERS. MAYBE THE OP WAS ABOUT TO DRINK A WHOLE FUCKING JUG OF BEER. BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE DO.

Pony Keg. No wonder **Uzi** is so upset.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/198 "2010-06-09T20:18:19Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> When you get into your car, you press down on the accelerator and the car begins rolling. You’re going 15 miles per hour and you’re doing fine, so what’s the harm in doing 35? Then you’re doing 50, then 70, and then your foot is pressed to the floorboard and you’re doing 110 and careening over the center divider into an oncoming school bus of disabled children on their way to a puppet show.

I was OK with this until the part about the puppet show. ☹

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/199 "2010-06-09T20:21:31Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> That’s exactly the kind of misogynist bilge I’d expect you to spew.

Apparently, _someone’s_ irony detector is on the fritz.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/200 "2010-06-09T21:29:26Z")

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> [@MTCicero](#):
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> Apparently, _someone’s_ irony detector is on the fritz.

See my post above. Somehow my brain rummaged around and came up with \*your \*name as the person who’d posted some similar misogynist bullshit recently, but in an absolutely serious way. Like I said: Sorry about that.

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