# You're a fine example of a cop dude. Really.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 2, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669 "2010-06-02T17:11:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/121 "2010-06-08T02:23:34Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> No, I mean people that think that anyone that has one beer with lunch impairs them too much to drive.

So, no one who has one beer at lunch can have it affect them enough that they would be a danger on the road? Interesting.  
And yet the link I provided earlier says that a person of 140lbs can start having impairment effects with only .5 ounces of alcohol, not the .6 in an average beer. And it is also interesting that the majority of the world has legal BAC limits significantly lower than the .08 the OP is saying he is under. Many of which could easily be violated by having just one beer. So, in those locations it would be wrong for him to have his beer, in the location he is in it isn’t wrong. I wonder why those locations think it wrong enough to not allow people to drink essentially anything before driving while you seem to think it is okay?  
And yet I am the unreasonable one here for understanding that in many cases one leads to two and that alcohol is a very significant factor in collisions.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/122 "2010-06-08T02:28:04Z")

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Drunk driving is bad, m’kay? So don’t drink beer… 'cause if you do, you are bad, m’kay?

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/123 "2010-06-08T02:48:02Z")

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So people are allowed to sell beer why exactly?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/124 "2010-06-08T02:59:39Z")

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[Online breathalyzer.](http://www.rupissed.com/)

5’7"/140lbs 1 beer 5% in 10 minutes results in a predicted .014 BAC

[DUI levels in other countries](http://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/research/pub/dwiothercountries/dwiothercountries.html#_Toc449518804)

Only illegal in Czech Republic and Japan. Some countries have lower limits for new drivers.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/125 "2010-06-08T03:37:45Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> 5’7"/140lbs 1 beer 5% in 10 minutes results in a predicted .014 BAC

I get for 345ml of beer .025 using your site (no idea why it would be any more accurate than the ones used on Wikipedia linked from Virginia tech). What size of beer was the OP drinking? I usually envision drinks at fast food places as being on the large size eg. Big Gulp territory.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/126 "2010-06-08T03:43:45Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> I get for 345ml of beer .025 using your site (no idea why it would be any more accurate than the ones used on Wikipedia linked from Virginia tech). What size of beer was the OP drinking? I usually envision drinks at fast food places as being on the large size eg. Big Gulp territory.

My fault, I forgot to set the amount for a standard 12oz bottle.

Still, most countries have limits between .05-.08, only a very few are .02.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/127 "2010-06-08T04:42:49Z")

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No problem. Look at the populations of some of those countries in the .02 and .03 range, though. It isn’t a small minority of people who essentially could be found to be breaking the law after only a medium sized beer.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/128 "2010-06-08T04:54:02Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> I don’t like booze because of what I’ve seen it do to people and the results of what happens when people don’t use it responsibly.

Well, fuck.

I guess that means I have to return that case of 12 year old scotch that I was getting you for your birthday.

Damn it to fucking hell!

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/129 "2010-06-08T05:24:33Z")

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Hey, it’s your money. I’d probably give it away to friends, or you’d see it returned next year as 13 year old scotch (12 crossed out with a Sharpie and a 13 written over top!). I’m not only a dickgarage, I’m cheap, too!

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/130 "2010-06-08T12:54:50Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> I usually envision drinks at fast food places as being on the large size eg. Big Gulp territory.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/131 "2010-06-08T13:23:34Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> Common sense is you don’t drink and drive. Just saying. Sorry it seems to offend you. Suck it up and have a water instead of a beer. Better for you and no chance of intoxication or killing someone else because of it.

This is so batshit off the wall; I can’t even begin to get mad at this.

I LOL’d.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/132 "2010-06-08T13:59:00Z")

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Okay. In light of the fact that the OP obviously isn’t going to pursue filing a complaint against the officer in question, I’m going to go ahead and call at least some measure of bullshit on his tale. At the very least, there must be more to the story than he’s telling us about.

That is all.

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/133 "2010-06-08T14:05:49Z")

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I’ve reads through three pages of this, and there are two questions lingering that have not been addressed…that I could spot. How did the OP get back to work (was the cop sitting in the parking lot waiting, did he decide not to drink the beer, etc) and where do you work that allows you to drink during the day? If I came back from lunch smelling like beer, I’d probably get asked to leave.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/134 "2010-06-08T14:09:30Z")

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> [@kittenblue](#):
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> I’ve reads through three pages of this, and there are two questions lingering that have not been addressed…that I could spot. How did the OP get back to work (was the cop sitting in the parking lot waiting, did he decide not to drink the beer, etc)

This was answered by the OP. He threw the beer in the garbage without drinking it.

> [@kittenblue](#):
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> and where do you work that allows you to drink during the day? If I came back from lunch smelling like beer, I’d probably get asked to leave.

Drinking a beer with lunch ≠ coming back to work drunk and smelling like beer.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/135 "2010-06-08T14:13:59Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> I get for 345ml of beer .025 using your site (no idea why it would be any more accurate than the ones used on Wikipedia linked from Virginia tech). What size of beer was the OP drinking? I usually envision drinks at fast food places as being on the large size eg. Big Gulp territory.

Are you serious? That’s what you envisioned?

Wow. Ever slightly out of touch with reality.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/136 "2010-06-08T14:14:53Z")

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> [@kittenblue](#):
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> I’ve reads through three pages of this, and there are two questions lingering that have not been addressed…that I could spot. How did the OP get back to work (was the cop sitting in the parking lot waiting, did he decide not to drink the beer, etc) and where do you work that allows you to drink during the day? If I came back from lunch smelling like beer, I’d probably get asked to leave.

When I worked across the street from Tully’s, the supers go went with the salesmen for beers all the time. Even when they didn’t go, they knew that the guys were going right across the street to Tully’s for burgers and beers. Why do folks even doubt stories like this? In a huge, varied, wide free country, where private businesses thrive, you honestly have trouble imagining that things may be done differently at some places of business than others?

And he explained in the OP that he poured the beer out.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/137 "2010-06-08T14:21:03Z")

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Was the cop drunk?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/138 "2010-06-08T14:26:02Z")

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> [@kittenblue](#):
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> I’ve reads through three pages of this, and there are two questions lingering that have not been addressed…that I could spot. How did the OP get back to work (was the cop sitting in the parking lot waiting, did he decide not to drink the beer, etc) and where do you work that allows you to drink during the day? If I came back from lunch smelling like beer, I’d probably get asked to leave.

Go to the financial section of a major city, and look at what the very well dressed people are drinking at [power lunches](http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861737544_1861737544/prevpage.html).

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/139 "2010-06-08T14:28:42Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Was the cop drunk?

Well, I did see him getting into his squad car with [this.](http://gothamist.com/attachments/nyc_arts_john/091709biggulp.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/140 "2010-06-08T15:08:29Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> As a large portion of collisions are a result of driving while intoxicated, to use your terms, it has everything to do with it.

No, it has _nothing to do with it_. One is drunk driving; the other is not wearing a fucking seatbelt.

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> So, only alcoholics are the ones who drive drunk? Or, are only alcoholics the type of people who become intoxicated? I should ask what the hell you are talking about here.

You’re saying that no one can have “just one” beer, and that anyone who claims to have had “just one” beer is lying. Congratulations–you’ve just labeled everyone who’s ever had anything containing alcohol as an alcoholic.

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> Yeah, I do have a problem with people drinking and then getting into a car to drive afterwords. You should, too. If more people did we’d have far fewer people killing each other on the roads for these reasons just because you can’t drink a fucking coke instead of a beer at lunch.

You know what else would cut down on drunk driving accidents? Outlawing cars. If all cars were outlawed, we’d cut our car-accident-death-rate down to zero. Overnight! So why do you think thousands upon thousands of people have to die every year just so that \*you \*can have the convenience of driving your own car?

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> Yeah, one beer may not make you intoxicated today, but tomorrow you’re taking your prescription and a beer and what was safe previously now isn’t.

You know, having sex with your girlfriend may be enough for you today, but tomorrow you’re out raping tweens and what was consensual sex is now rape.

See, I can make retarded slippery slope arguments, too!

> [@Uzi](#):
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> What size of beer was the OP drinking? I usually envision drinks at fast food places as being on the large size eg. Big Gulp territory.

That’s 'cause you’re _a fucking retard_. Thanks for proving to everyone else that your position is \*\*\*firmly \*\*\*based in blind, unreasoned panic, though. Tell me again why you’re posting on a site dedicated to “fighting ignorance”?

Fact: Any time I’ve seen a fast-food chain establishment selling beer, it’s been 12-oz. bottles.

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