# You're a fine example of a cop dude. Really.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 2, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669 "2010-06-02T17:11:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/161 "2010-06-09T09:06:07Z")

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one beer might be drinking and driving but only if you are super small, at my size one beer with a meal would be undetectable (as in I wouldnt even feel it) but I am a 220# male, an average beer doesnt even get me to .02

that cop has issues of some kind to say the least.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/162 "2010-06-09T10:00:59Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Only proves, assholes are everywhere.

Indeed. As evidenced by **Uzi** ’s posts.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/163 "2010-06-09T10:05:08Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> And the tasers? Good lord. Those things are used with reckless abandon in my county. We actually had a case where the cop ended up tasing _herself_

I’d pay real money to have seen this.

We need more “stupid cop” videos on YouTube, damn it!

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/164 "2010-06-09T11:50:50Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> I’m a public defender, so I hear asshole cop stories all day long, every day.

Sounds like you would be someone here on the board that could give a decent estimate of what percentage of cops are of the asshole variety that reasonable law abiding citizens would rightfully be fearful of having an encounter with.

Care to give us an estimate?

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/165 "2010-06-09T12:13:13Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> **Sounds like you would be someone here on the board that could give a decent estimate of what percentage of cops are of the asshole variety that reasonable law abiding citizens would rightfully be fearful of having an encounter with.**
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> Care to give us an estimate?

Longest sentence of the day? 😉  
In all seriousness, though, I, too, would be quite interested in **lezler** ’s thoughts on that matter. As a confirmed cop-detester (by and large), I’d like to see if my feelings of general fuzz contempt are justified or not.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/166 "2010-06-09T13:04:29Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> And I’m supposed to know what the hell happens in Texas why?

Yeah, probably best to fight your own ignorance by making wild assumptions and accusations.

Are you starting to get it yet that maybe your opinion is not 100% spot on? Or are you just going to dig yourself in deeper?

Don’t bother answering. We all already know the answer.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/167 "2010-06-09T13:09:33Z")

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> [@Raygun99](#):
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> No one is taking a pro-drinking and driving stance. Really now. But “one beer” does not, without some bizarre extraneous circumstances, constitute being drunk and driving.

And if you read my last post, I said drinking and driving and a few previously most likely. Why take the chance?  
And you are most certainly taking a pro drinking and driving chance because you say there is no problem with having one drink and then driving. It leaves it open for the #220lb (as noted below) guy saying to himself that, “Well, I’ve only had one and I’m a big guy, so two shouldn’t hurt”. None never leads to more than one. Next I guess I’ll be told that it never happens and that all the actual drunk drivers out there skipped past one on their way to many.  
But, it seems many do condone drinking and driving and **I’m** the asshole for pointing it out or of being intolerant of the practice.  
Oddly enough, no matter how much water or pop the average person is capable of drinking it seldom leads to them being more of a danger on the road.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/168 "2010-06-09T13:12:12Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> **I’m** the asshole for pointing it out or of being intolerant of the practice.

Yes.

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/169 "2010-06-09T13:26:02Z")

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Sorry about that. Carry on with your drinking and driving then. In Texas, not here.

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**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/170 "2010-06-09T13:33:54Z")

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See, this is how it starts; you’re headed out for a two-hour drive, and you have a headache, and you think “well, I’ll just pop an aspirin before I go…hell, make it two,” and then before you know it, you’ve downed half the fucking bottle, and now you’re on the road all [nauseous and vomiting and having seizures and cerebral edemas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirin_poisoning) and shit.

Take some responsibility, people. Jesus.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/171 "2010-06-09T13:38:26Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> And if you read my last post, I said drinking and driving and a few previously most likely. Why take the chance?  
> And you are most certainly taking a pro drinking and driving chance because you say there is no problem with having one drink and then driving. It leaves it open for the #220lb (as noted below) guy saying to himself that, “Well, I’ve only had one and I’m a big guy, so two shouldn’t hurt”. None never leads to more than one.

When you get into your car, you press down on the accelerator and the car begins rolling. You’re going 15 miles per hour and you’re doing fine, so what’s the harm in doing 35? Then you’re doing 50, then 70, and then your foot is pressed to the floorboard and you’re doing 110 and careening over the center divider into an oncoming school bus of disabled children on their way to a puppet show. You’re the one taking a pro “crushed, bloody kids slaughtered in a deadly fireball” stance, and you’re going to say I’m the asshole for \*daring \*to suggest that nobody should ever take his car out of park? All I’m saying is: why take a chance?

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/172 "2010-06-09T13:43:00Z")

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> [@MTCicero](#):
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> I’d pay real money to have seen this.
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> We need more “stupid cop” videos on YouTube, damn it!

Oh yeah. We had a “police report of the week” thing going for awhile, and that one ended up being police report of the _month_. Good stuff.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/173 "2010-06-09T13:47:56Z")

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God, **Uzi** , you’re a fucking idiot. Does your whole life exist on a slippery slope, or are you even capable of taking one event into consideration without throwing the whole mess of shit that hasn’t happened into the equation? People like you piss me off. Pompous, self-important dick.

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**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/174 "2010-06-09T13:48:18Z")

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Eh, if you’re gonna get one-upped, might as well be by **VT**.

Dickgarage.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/175 "2010-06-09T13:51:37Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Sounds like you would be someone here on the board that could give a decent estimate of what percentage of cops are of the asshole variety that reasonable law abiding citizens would rightfully be fearful of having an encounter with.
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> Care to give us an estimate?

It actually depends on where you’re from. I live in a county comprised of a lot of tiny cities and a couple of bigger ones (meaning, more than 100,000 people.) In the smaller cities, I’d advise steering clear of about 80% of the PDs. Seriously. They’re a bunch of bored cowboys. If they don’t find any action to keep them entertained on a Friday night, they’re gonna _find_ some.

In the bigger cities, there’s a little more leeway. I’d say to be wary of about 60% of the cops. They tend to have more serious crime to keep them occupied and are a little less likely to harass Tommy the Tweaker every time they see him walking down the street.

I work with an investigator in my office who is a retired cop. He’s one of the good guys. He’s told me some infuriating stories and thinks cop’s behavior today is more of a generational thing. Back in his day, cops were out to actually arrest criminals, they weren’t out to prove what big bad men they are. He can’t stand the cops in our county today, he’s ashamed of them.

One of the D.A.s I work with regularly also tells me how she routinely gets phone calls from cops yelling at her whenever she dismisses one of my cases (usually because the cops did something shady that I was actually able to confirm.) They tend to take it _real_ seriously whenever one of their arrests gets thrown out in court. They’re not quite smart enough to put two and two together though, and stop doing shady shit. I’m telling you, hatched from the same egg as my repeat clients. Exact same mentality. Same actions, expecting a different result.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/176 "2010-06-09T13:53:14Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> When you get into your car, you press down on the accelerator and the car begins rolling. You’re going 15 miles per hour and you’re doing fine, so what’s the harm in doing 35? Then you’re doing 50, then 70, and then your foot is pressed to the floorboard and you’re doing 110 and careening over the center divider into an oncoming school bus of disabled children on their way to a puppet show. You’re the one taking a pro “crushed, bloody kids slaughtered in a deadly fireball” stance, and you’re going to say I’m the asshole for \*daring \*to suggest that nobody should ever take his car out of park? All I’m saying is: why take a chance?

Too subtle, dude. She’s not going to get it.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/177 "2010-06-09T15:39:32Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Too subtle, dude. She’s not going to get it.

And if she got that she might get other things such as Communism. Why do you hate America?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/178 "2010-06-09T16:00:14Z")

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> [@Uzi](#):
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> I’m posting on this site because ignorant sick fucks like you who don’t care for anyone else on the planet and can’t go 5 minutes or through a meal without having a drink with alcohol in it need someone sane to tell them they are assholes for driving afterwords.

1.) Further evidence that you don’t pay attention to shit: I don’t drive. I never drive. I have never owned a car. I have never had a license. I have never driven with the least drop of alcohol in me, nor any other intoxicating substance.

2.) I enjoy the taste of good beers and wines. I would continue to drink them even if they had no intoxicating effect. I’m sorry you have the palate of an eight year old and can’t appreciate them, too. You can have my Gummi Bears, if you want.

3.) What’s your opinion on people who take prescription narcotics and drive? I mean, sure, it’s legal, but hey, there’s a tiny chance that their driving might be impaired! Surely they should just quit their jobs and stay home, right?

4.) You still haven’t explained why you’re so fucking self-centered that you continue to drive a car or other motor vehicle. After all, you’d be much less of a danger to everyone else as a pedestrian or riding a bicycle.

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> I’ve never seen or been to any fast food place in Canada that sells alcohol.

Do you have Chipotle or QDoba there? 'Cause that’s where I’ve seen it.

> [@billfish678](#):
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> Mexicans are like cacti. They got big thorns on em that will pop a tire in a heart beat.

Not to mention, they love sleeping. If you tap 'em wrong, they just drop down in a coma, which is just like a really big nap. So \*that’s \*no good.

> [@Roland\_Orzabal](#):
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> Dickgarage.

Isn’t it awesome?

> [@tdn](#):
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> She’s not going to get it.

She? \*\*Uzi \*\*is female?

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/179 "2010-06-09T16:08:07Z")

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[http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/court-kicks-dwi-case-sets-new-standard](http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/court-kicks-dwi-case-sets-new-standard)  
If you’re in New Mexico, life got a little easier. Now, you can’t get a DWI for sitting in the car drunk. So being responsible won’t screw you.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-fine-example-of-a-cop-dude-really/541669/180 "2010-06-09T16:10:03Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> In the bigger cities, there’s a little more leeway. I’d say to be wary of about 60% of the cops. They tend to have more serious crime to keep them occupied and are a little less likely to harass Tommy the Tweaker every time they see him walking down the street.

> **[News & Politics - The Village Voice](https://www.villagevoice.com/front/news-and-politics/)**

This is worth reading, all three articles in the series. There’s several kinds of harassment, institutionalized, listed here. In a big city. Thing is, if you’re mildly lucky, it won’t be _serious_, the charges won’t be filed, but it’ll still mess your week up.

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