# You're a pompous, pretentious WHORE - go back to Italy! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344 "2006-06-27T13:37:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/42 "2006-06-27T15:02:35Z")
I think instead of slapping her you should slap your 2 friends that dated her after the first friend. Seriously, who dates their friend’s ex? Especially one that he was heartbroken over? Your friends are messed up. Third guy got what was coming to him. She did give him a chance - she went on one date with him and then honestly told him the truth, that she didn’t like him that way and wanted to be friends. Would you rather have her lead him on for a few months? How long do you have to date a guy you are not attracted to? People do things on vacation they wouldn’t normally do. Especially teenagers, especially in a place as romantic and exciting as Italy. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/43 "2006-06-27T15:03:46Z")
> [@Argent Towers](#): > > I don’t get it. She rejected three of my friends, guys who cared for her and would have given anything for her, and then loses her virginity to guys in Europe that she’s never going to see again? I don’t get it. Why are you hanging around with losers who can’t get laid? ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/44 "2006-06-27T15:03:48Z")
Hmm. I think I know the real reason she was hot on European men. She likes smegma. _ducks and runs_ Seriously though folks, imagine how it must have felt to **Argent Tower’s** friends when they learned that she banged a couple of strangers. It sounds like they cared for her considering **AT’s** comments and as such, it had to hurt. And like a good friend, he is outraged by it. Dunno what else to say other than I pity the fools who can’t understand this concept. ---
**Author:** ![JustAnotherGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@JustAnotherGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustAnotherGeek)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/45 "2006-06-27T15:04:07Z")
> [@Argent Towers](#): > > At a small gathering with my friends and I, …aaaannnnd, there’s your problem. Look, this chick is now an offical “ex” to two of your friends and an offical “let’s just be friends” to a third. You obviously don’t like this person. The other 2 or 3 have emotional ties to her that she does not recprocate. Have you considered simply not being around her? As in, stop associating with her. I know you all probably have mutual friends, but maybe it’s time to limit or eliminate contact with her. Then you don’t have to worry about her getting you pissed about anything. That whole “let’s be friends thing” or “staying friends after a break up” is not something that happens easily, or, IME, often. If this chick made those comments in front of two former boyfriends, especially two former boyfriends to whom she sang a drastically different tune, she is broadcasting a “it’s time to get you out of my life” message. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/46 "2006-06-27T15:05:31Z")
> [@Marienee](#): > > JINX 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 > > That was freaky. No, fairly predictable. Attempting to silence men by imputing sexual inadequacy is a debating tactic common to one or two people hereabouts. 😛 Hey, back in the day I remember a girl who turned her nose up at me and preferred the guy whose idea of wit consisted of embarrassing her by announcing when she had her period. Explanations of why he was better than me can be appended below. > [@manda jo](#): > > Aren’t we past the point where having casual sex automatically qualifies a girl as “shallow”? If the sex was what I was characterising as shallow, and not the plumping for some random dude who was foreign and exotic while she was on holiday, you’d have a case. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/47 "2006-06-27T15:09:06Z")
I don’t know about other women, but when I was that age, the eager, drooling, panting, horny teen-aged boy who was dying to get some tail was about the biggest turn-off around (men who behave that way are still a turn-off). The smooth, smoldering, self-assured, cool guy was way more likely to get my attention. If that’s they way you and your buddies are presenting yourselves, it’s no wonder she gave it up to someone else. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/48 "2006-06-27T15:09:02Z")
> [@Peak Banana](#): > > For what it’s worth, my dear chap, it only gets easier from here. It does? I must have missed that memo. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/49 "2006-06-27T15:09:33Z")
> [@Revenant Threshold](#): > > Really? > In that case, I invite all female dopers to look at my location tag. _cough_. > > 😛 Hmm, London, UK. Sounds familiar. Isn’t that the island off the coast of Europe? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/50 "2006-06-27T15:13:46Z")
What you and your three friends need is just a night out for pizza and beer to forget about your girl troubles. They’ll feel much better with a light buzz and a mouthfull of Italian sausage. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/51 "2006-06-27T15:15:06Z")
> [@Lazlo](#): > > Seriously though folks, imagine how it must have felt to **Argent Tower’s** friends when they learned that she banged a couple of strangers. It sounds like they cared for her considering **AT’s** comments and as such, it had to hurt. But whether they cared for her or not is irrelevant. Whether they were hurt or not is irrelevant. The fact that she chose not to sleep with them, and to sleep with someone else, does not make her a “pompous, pretentios WHORE.” When a woman changes her mind and decides to fuck people, is there some rule that she has to start with the men she has rejected previously? I must have missed the memo. > [@Lazlo](#): > > And like a good friend, he is outraged by it. > > Dunno what else to say other than I pity the fools who can’t understand this concept. I understand the concept very well, but being sympathetic to your friends is one thing; calling the source of their hurt a whore for choosing to sleep with different people is something quite different. > [@lieu](#): > > What you and your three friends need is just a night out for pizza and beer to forget about your girl troubles. They’ll feel much better with a light buzz and a mouthfull of Italian sausage. He’ll be here all week folks. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/52 "2006-06-27T15:18:26Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > I don’t know about other women, but when I was that age, the eager, drooling, panting, horny teen-aged boy who was dying to get some tail was about the biggest turn-off around (men who behave that way are still a turn-off). The smooth, smoldering, self-assured, cool guy was way more likely to get my attention. If that’s they way you and your buddies are presenting yourselves, it’s no wonder she gave it up to someone else. I’ll buy that. Heck, I’ll even pay you handsomely for it. However, you’d have been hard pushed to sell me that back when I was drooling, panting, horny, teenaged dimwitted boy myself. But, yeah. **Argent Towers** , if you’re looking for the girl’s POW, I think there may be a clue for you here. ---
**Author:** ![Marienee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@Marienee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marienee)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/53 "2006-06-27T15:23:09Z")
> [@JustAnotherGeek](#): > > …aaaannnnd, there’s your problem. In fairness, I did have to sort of wonder about the, um, sensitivity quotient of a person’s announcing this kind of thing to a group of four people, three of whom she has dated. If that was the case, it was to say the least not a really nice thing. But then I was not sure if that meant they were the only ones in the room or what that was. And I don’t think not being nice = WHORE. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/54 "2006-06-27T15:24:23Z")
> [@Marienee](#): > > In fairness, I did have to sort of wonder about the, um, sensitivity quotient of a person’s announcing this kind of thing to a group of four people, three of whom she has dated. If that was the case, it was to say the least not a really nice thing. > > But then I was not sure if that meant they were the only ones in the room or what that was. And I don’t think not being nice = WHORE. How about we compromise on “shallow”? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/55 "2006-06-27T15:24:44Z")
When I think back on it, in High School I never had sex with a girl FROM my High School until I was a senior. You need to be the guy from the rival high school, the cool out-of-towner. . .who is really just as much of a dorky, tail-chasing, quick-squirting loser as the kids from her high school, but at least you’re not the dorky, tail-chasing, quick-squirting loser from her high school. How could she sleep with THAT guy? Anyone picturing **Argent Towers** and friends as Anthony Michael Hall’s crew from Sixteen Candles? Except **Argent** isn’t AMH. He’s one of the uber-nerds who didn’t even get to date our little Hippie sex pot. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/56 "2006-06-27T15:24:47Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > If the sex was what I was characterising as shallow, and not the plumping for some random dude who was foreign and exotic while she was on holiday, you’d have a case. 😛 Wait, casual sex isn’t shallow unless it’s with someone exotic while you are on vacation? My god, if you are going to have casual sex, that’s the type to have! In all seriousness, a couple more points: As to why girls behave like this, part of the reason is that at some point you are ready to start having sex. And it really doesn’t have anything to do with the people around you–it’s an internal thing, a reaching the point where you don’t feel like that would make you impossibly vunerable, or where you’ve fianlly lost that ten pounds (that’s teen girl logic, sorry) or your hormones have finally kicked in to where you just can’t wait (and this can be much later than it happens for boys). But it isn’t about the old boyfriend. She isn’t thinking about the old boyfriend, or trying to hurt him. Then, she wasn’t ready to have sex. Now, she is. That’s ok, people are allowed to change their minds. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/57 "2006-06-27T15:26:53Z")
> [@Happy Clam](#): > > Uh, no. Y’see, I was being a little snarky about **elmwood’s** use of “woman” and suggesting that _people_ change their minds all the time. > > Unless I’m being whooshed. 😕 Confused is right. I wrote it, not elmwood. Secondly, it was a joke for fuck sake. Of course men change their mind too. So do monkeys and dogs and insects. One hundred political correctness points for you. Well done. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/58 "2006-06-27T15:27:31Z")
> [@Peak Banana](#): > > I’ll buy that. Heck, I’ll even pay you handsomely for it. However, you’d have been hard pushed to sell me that back when I was drooling, panting, horny, teenaged dimwitted boy myself. Yeah…how’d that work out for ya? 😉 I picture these dorks running around like the dog from the Beggin’ Strips commercial: “It’s PUSSY! (pant-pant) PUSSY! PUSSY! PUSSY!” You are so the last guy in the room gettin’ laid. ---
**Author:** ![Marienee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@Marienee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marienee)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/59 "2006-06-27T15:28:04Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > No, fairly predictable. Attempting to silence men by imputing sexual inadequacy is a debating tactic common to one or two people hereabouts. 😛 Well, since the thread started with calling a woman a WHORE for not living up to some imaginary standard about which she knows nothing…I mean, I’m new here. So is dismissing women who don’t \*behave properly \*\* also a common debating tactic hereabouts? Just curious. And a 😛 to you, too. \*defined as having sex with the right guy, to wit, the speaker. Of course. ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/60 "2006-06-27T15:30:37Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I understand the concept very well, but being sympathetic to your friends is one thing; calling the source of their hurt a whore for choosing to sleep with different people is something quite different. Point taken. It was the coffee comment that made her pompous and pretentious. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/61 "2006-06-27T15:31:46Z")
> [@Marienee](#): > > Well, since the thread started with calling a woman a WHORE for not living up to some imaginary standard about which she knows nothing…I mean, I’m new here. So is dismissing women who don’t \*behave properly \*\* also a common debating tactic hereabouts? Just curious. > > And a 😛 to you, too. > > \*defined as having sex with the right guy, to wit, the speaker. Of course. Well, come back when I called anyone a whore, and we’ll discuss it. 😛 [sup]3[/sup] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344.md?page=4)