# You're a pompous, pretentious WHORE - go back to Italy! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344 "2006-06-27T13:37:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/82 "2006-06-27T16:04:46Z")
When I was young, having sex took boatloads of work. Hours of blood, sweat, and tears. Day after day of agonizing. I took ‘finding a girlfriend’ about as serious as ‘finding a job’. And this was when I was young and in friggen’ awesome shape. I’m still in decent shape, but I’m pushing 40. Quite frankly I’m too lazy to go out and chase PYTs anymore. Couldn’t be bothered. And lo, I’m damn near beating the girls off with sticks. Part of me (a very, very, very small part) almost wishes I didn’t have a model-esque knockout for a girlfriend. I think that girls are attracted to guys who aren’t into the chase thing - I think it confuses them 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/83 "2006-06-27T16:05:03Z")
Wow. The prize for the stoopidust pitting evar goes to…I mean, holy shit, man. Your friends seem to be cardinal fuckwits as well. Hot chick agrees to hang out with them, they get let down mighty easy, and she goes away to have sex with someone she’s actually attracted to. It must be really confusing to be stupid _and_ ugly _and_ completely unaware of it. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/84 "2006-06-27T16:08:13Z")
It’s stories like this that make me glad that it’s simpler to be gay. Sex is so much easier to get. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/85 "2006-06-27T16:10:37Z")
> [@Argent Towers](#): > > Her relationship with my best friend ended eventually, I suspect because she wouldn’t have sex with him… What you’re overlooking here is that your friend is a shallow twit who couldn’t get laid by a girl he’d been dating for a _year_ who slept with two guys on a whirlwind trip to Italy. And that’s just sad. ---
**Author:** ![i\_am\_flash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/87869e/32.png) [@i\_am\_flash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/i_am_flash)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/86 "2006-06-27T16:15:01Z")
As it’s been said, calling her a whore is probably too harsh. But i think there is some amount of American Teen Guy perspective not being said here. It’s very frustrating to 18-year-old, American guys that 18-year-old, American girls find 20-something, European guys hundreds of times more attractive. We just don’t get why slightly older European men are so much more appealing to girls - and we really can’t do anything about it. It seems really unfair, but i’ve come to terms with it now. I mean, it’d be okay if 20-something, European _girls_ found us ridiculously attractive. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/87 "2006-06-27T16:16:47Z")
> [@Peak Banana](#): > > Horny, panting young boys who act like Nice Guys in order to be rewarded with nookie down the road are still horny, panting young boys looking for nookie. I’m not sure I see a difference between them and the horny, panting boys who are more open about their wishes. Just slightly different strategies, that’s all. Thank you. They may not be extremely vocal about it, but the leering and soforth…it’s a dead giveaway. Some guys make it very apparent what they’re looking for without actually saying anything. I agree that a lot of that is due to inexperience, but it doesn’t soften the turn-off. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/88 "2006-06-27T16:16:49Z")
> [@i am flash](#): > > I mean, it’d be okay if 20-something, European _girls_ found us ridiculously attractive. 😉 Psst - they do… ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/89 "2006-06-27T16:17:38Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > It may be different for people with 18" prehensile tongues, but when I was a lad it was a seller’s market, and I wasn’t the seller. It resolves itself into a question of having a relationship or not having one rather than picking and choosing. That victim mentality of “I have to take what scraps I can get” is the problem. It sets up a power imbalance right from the outset, where the other person is solely responsible for your romantic happiness. Even if one’s prospects are limited or non-existent, there’s always the choice to avoid or leave an unfulfilling relationship and wait for the next opportunity to come along. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/90 "2006-06-27T16:18:46Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > The only thing he’s “better” at is being attractive to, and later having sex with, women. > > I’d like to see how he does at a little game called World of Warcraft. Then we’ll see who the half-orc shaman is! Hee hee! This, along with Lieu’s _Italian Sausage_ comment made my day! Best part of the thread! Argent Towers: You seem very invested in her choices. And, you know, I understand. I myself have, in the past, let myself get too involved in other people’s lives. I actually thought my opinion about other people’s lives mattered, as if their life was mine to dictate or something. I was wrong. But it taught me a valuable lesson: Don’t.do.that. You make an ass of yourself. I think that it might be a good idea to not hang out with her anymore and to hang out with girls with whom you don’t have the history. 🙂 The past isn’t going to go away. Maybe in the future you can go back to being good buddies, but for now, you’re too invested. Just my humble opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/91 "2006-06-27T16:19:03Z")
> [@Antinor01](#): > > It’s stories like this that make me glad that it’s simpler to be gay. Sex is so much easier to get. 🙂 Maybe AT and his three buddies should try it; they can all fuck each other and quit whining. ---
**Author:** ![abbeytxs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@abbeytxs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abbeytxs)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/92 "2006-06-27T16:21:40Z")
“ **You’re a pompous, pretentious WHORE - go back to Italy!** ” Dude, if she were a WHORE she would have fucked your buddies and charged them for it. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/93 "2006-06-27T16:24:40Z")
I also don’t understand what the big mystery is that she chose some else over them. Maybe there wasn’t any chemistry. Maybe she’s just not that into ya. Unrequited love…hey…it happens. ---
**Author:** ![lokij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@lokij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lokij)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/94 "2006-06-27T16:25:16Z")
I have nothing of substance to offer. Just this. ;\> > **[The Onion | America's Finest News Source.](https://www.theonion.com/)** > > The Onion brings you all of the latest news, stories, photos, videos and more from America's finest news source. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/95 "2006-06-27T16:28:32Z")
First of all: I have been in a steady relationship for 7 months. I’m not bitter that this girl isn’t interested in me - in fact, I have no interest in her and I’m NOT, as you might suspect, calling her a pretentious whore because I’m jealous of those studly European men that she was with and I “can’t get a girl.” I already have a girl and I am extremely happy with her. I’m pissed off at this girl because I’m empathizing with my friends. These are my two best friends I’m talking about, and believe me, they’re not insensitive twits, they’re very nice and intelligent men, who are also good-looking and have had a good deal of success with girls. We’re not “the breakfast club,” and if you met us in real life or saw what we looked like, these asinine depictions of my friends and I as slobbering bitter teenagers (we are all over 20) would evaporate. If this situation had happened when I was a junior in high school, I would have been condeming the girl for being a whore, while secretly wishing that it was ME that she was fucking, and envying the handsome and charming European men that she got it on with, wishing I could only be like them or be like the popular guys with spiked hair and Hollister shirts. Every guy thinks this in high school at some point. But high school is over. That is NOT the mentality I am coming at this from. The reason I am upset over this is that this girl was TOTALLY vehement about saving herself for marriage, thereby causing my friends who dated her a great deal of anguish - and then going and having anonymous sex in Europe, AND THEN RUBBING IT IN MY FRIENDS’ FACES. Can you guys really not see how _telling these two guys about her sexual experiences_ was a bitchy and rude thing to do? After all that she put them through? ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/96 "2006-06-27T16:28:33Z")
> [@lokij](#): > > I have nothing of substance to offer. Just this. ;\> > > [The Onion | America's Finest News Source.](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34198) God, I was LOOKING for that Onion article. Classic! ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/97 "2006-06-27T16:28:44Z")
> [@dangermom](#): > > So, the message I’m getting from the OP is that this girl _owed_ these guys sex somehow. She didn’t want to have sex, and that made her bad, or she cheated them out of their rightful due of sex. > > Then, when she gave sex to someone else, it was a betrayal of these guys, who were owed the sex. It also made her a whore, because she changed her mind about her readiness to have sex. No, but it is pretty crappy. I mean, she’s saying to the American boyfriends, “Oh, no, I won’t have sex with you, I’m saving myself for marriage.” Then she comes back from Italy, and tells them “I had sex with some Italian guys.” The implied question of course, is “Whatever happened to ‘saving yourself for marriage’?”, and her answer to that was “They were gorgeous”. So it is sort of a kick in the ego, there. It’s sort of saying, “I was lying about the abstinence thing. I was just saying that so I could get out of having sex with you.” ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/98 "2006-06-27T16:30:01Z")
> [@Argent Towers](#): > > “I’ll never drink American coffee again.” Come to think of it, “coffee” may have been a euphemism here, and if so, that’s really rubbing it in… Coffee, coffee, I must have it, And if someone wants to treat me, Ah, my cup with coffee fill! And all the poor American lads can hope to offer is that impotent, sloppy Starbucks-schlock… C’mon, of \*course \*they’re frustrated. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/99 "2006-06-27T16:30:08Z")
> [@Argent Towers](#): > > Her relationship with my best friend ended eventually, I suspect because she wouldn’t have sex with him > … > I don’t get it. She rejected three of my friends, guys who cared for her and would have given anything for her, and then loses her virginity to guys in Europe that she’s never going to see again? Your suspected motive for the first break-up doesn’t jive with the “would have given anything for her” bit. Because, if your suspicion is correct, he wouldn’t give up on premarital nookie for her. The other two guys, well it takes two to tango and it sounds like she just wasn’t as into them as they were into her. There is no shame in this, from either direction. Going from “virgin, saving myself for marriage” to “casual sex on vacation” is an abrupt change, and could have consequences or inspire regrets later. Still, her life, her decision. Overall I’m disappointed. I was thinking some Italian chick had come to the US and was whoring around. I’ve always liked Italians. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/100 "2006-06-27T16:35:32Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Yeah…how’d that work out for ya? 😉 > > I picture these dorks running around like the dog from the Beggin’ Strips commercial: > > “It’s PUSSY! (pant-pant) PUSSY! PUSSY! PUSSY!” > > You are so the last guy in the room gettin’ laid. I just now noticed this comment and I can’t believe how mean-spirited it is. Are you aware that I am an actual person and not a computer screen? My friends and I are real people, we have lives, and no, we don’t “pant for pussy.” I don’t see how you could assume that this is how I am from what I’ve told you. I’m 20 years old. My friends are 21 and 20. We have all been in numerous relationships, all of which prominently featured mutual sexual pleasure. Therefore, as college students in a very liberal-minded social circle, it is _a little weird_ to encounter one of our own ilk who is “saving herself for marriage.” It’s even weirder that she would then go back on that for _casual sex with men she will never see again._ And it is DOWNRIGHT RUDE and inconsiderate for her to bring this up in conversation with two ex-boyfriends who she refused to have sex with and for whom this was a source of great anguish. How do these circumstances make my friends and I slobbering savages? I hope at least from my explanation you understand that I am not a moron. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344/101 "2006-06-27T16:36:48Z")
> [@lokij](#): > > I have nothing of substance to offer. Just this. ;\> > > [The Onion | America's Finest News Source.](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34198) 😃 Perfect! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-a-pompous-pretentious-whore-go-back-to-italy/362344.md?page=6)