# You're being bullied? Really?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 3, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007 "2017-06-03T15:00:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/21 "2017-06-03T17:41:30Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Shocking how Griffin is being bullied, when Trump got away with [this](https://www.rt.com/uk/365124-trump-effigy-bonfire-edenbridge/).

That’s different. IOKIARDI

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/22 "2017-06-03T17:43:19Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I hereby ask the United Nations to grant me special authority to save the United States.
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> Please allow me to capture Kathy Griffin, Ted Nugent and Bill Maher and deliver them to an undisclosed location (ok, somewhere in the Kerguelen Islands) where they will be forced to remain in exile with no external communications for the remainder of their days.
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> I promise that there is plenty of wildlife in this region for Ted to hunt and skin, as well as edible plant life. Trust me, they’ll be fine.
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> Ok, Ted will kill the other two and then become even more of a pants-shittingly insane person, but you won’t actually know if this happens or not.
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> As a servant of America and the world, I am also willing to take whatever other individuals, to a maximum of 50, they believe are necessary. However, I would ask that you provide me with $5 million dollars to ensure that they are adequately supplied with tents and other survival gear. There will be no accounting of my expenses provided.

I like your plan… just so long as we can ADD to the list, as needed.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/23 "2017-06-03T17:45:05Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> **True. But she is also whining about all the criticism she’s getting, citing her First Amendment rights.**
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> News flash: your First Amendment right to say/show something crass, vulgar and disturbing, doesn’t immunisé you from harsh criticism from others, exercising their First Amendment rights. Nor does it guarantee your job in the private sector.

_Flashes back to Sarah Palin_

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/24 "2017-06-03T17:46:57Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Shocking how Griffin is being bullied, when Trump got away with [this](https://www.rt.com/uk/365124-trump-effigy-bonfire-edenbridge/).

What exactly do you think Trump “got away with” there? Somebody in another country decided to use his likeness to burn in effigy. He had nothing to do with it.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/25 "2017-06-03T17:47:41Z")

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The thing about being outrageous is you’re going to outrage some people. Ted Nugent did it when he talked about killing Obama and Kathy Griffin did it when she talked about killing Trump. Both undoubtedly had their careers affected, both positively and negatively.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/26 "2017-06-03T17:52:18Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> What exactly do you think Trump “got away with” there? Somebody in another country decided to use his likeness to burn in effigy. He had nothing to do with it.

I swear, I could have made a [fortune](https://ishouldbelaughing.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/61.jpg) in telemarketing. ☹

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/27 "2017-06-03T17:52:31Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> I assume you said the same thing about Ted Nugent when he called for hanging President Obama dozens of times and also when he called for assassinating Hillary Clinton and then you called out 45 for inviting him to the White House.
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> Right?

You’re God Damn right I did

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/28 "2017-06-03T18:07:04Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> You’re God Damn right I did

Good! I’ve had more than enough of that asshole Nugent’s noise too.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/29 "2017-06-03T18:13:05Z")

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Ted Nugent was invited to dinner at the White House. Fuck anybody who criticizes people who criticize Trump.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/30 "2017-06-03T18:17:00Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Ted Nugent was invited to dinner at the White House. Fuck anybody who criticizes people who criticize Trump.

Seeing those photos drove me into a fucking rage. That rat bastard, lying, cowardly shit stained, draft dodging (who warmongers for OTHER people to fight), “dress up like GI Joe”, gun waving (but won’t fight) motherfucker.

Next time he threatens to gun anyone down, I want that person to say “challenge accepted” and present two weapons - one for each of them. And force him to crawl like the fucking worm he is. On national TV. During prime time. On ALL the networks.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/31 "2017-06-03T18:19:14Z")

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Her whining and crying about death threats is entirely stupid. Hell, I expected her to receive death threats. If I took the same photograph, I’d expect backlash from over 40 million people who support the orange asshole. She should’ve just laid low after her apology.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/32 "2017-06-03T18:24:56Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Her whining and crying about death threats is entirely stupid. Hell, I expected her to receive death threats. If I took the same photograph, I’d expect backlash from over 40 million people who support the orange asshole. She should’ve just laid low after her apology.

Death threats are not backlash. She has ever responsibility to call them out. Someone who issues a death threat is a depraved psychopath and needs to be removed from the population.

They are not jokes. They are not acceptable.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/33 "2017-06-03T18:25:01Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Her whining and crying about death threats is entirely stupid. Hell, I expected her to receive death threats. If I took the same photograph, I’d expect backlash from over 40 million people who support the orange asshole. She should’ve just laid low after her apology.

So the death threats are OK but the fake head is not? Just asking.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/34 "2017-06-03T18:25:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Ted Nugent was invited to dinner at the White House. Fuck anybody who criticizes people who criticize Trump.

How about people who criticize people who criticize people who criticize Trump? It’s almost like a Russian doll of critique.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/35 "2017-06-03T18:26:50Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The thing about being outrageous is you’re going to outrage some people. Ted Nugent did it when he talked about killing Obama and Kathy Griffin did it when she talked about killing Trump. Both undoubtedly had their careers affected, both positively and negatively.

She did not talk about killing Trump. I get tired of people making up shit.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/36 "2017-06-03T18:28:47Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> She did not talk about killing Trump. I get tired of people making up shit.

Never ever let the truth get in the way. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/37 "2017-06-03T18:30:52Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> So the death threats are OK but the fake head is not? Just asking.

No, the whole idea she had about publishing the photograph with the severed head and not expecting death threats is unreasonable.

AND threatening to kill someone because they made fun of their orange hero is also unreasonable.

This publicity stunt only gives fuel to the “violent libruls” alt-right lovers keep harping about.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/38 "2017-06-03T18:36:34Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> No, the whole idea she had about publishing the photograph with the severed head and not expecting death threats is unreasonable.
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> AND threatening to kill someone because they made fun of their orange hero is also unreasonable.
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> This publicity stunt only gives fuel to the “violent libruls” alt-right lovers keep harping about.

Don’t even get me started on THAT hypocritical bullshit. It seems every damn day there’s another violent alt-right asshole killing, or trying to kill, or threatening to kill someone.

I find posing for a pic with a fake head to be miles away from DEATH threats. One is stupid, the other is a crime.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/39 "2017-06-03T18:48:01Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> She did not talk about killing Trump.

She’s clearly celebrating the idea of Trump having been ISISed. A distinction without much of a difference in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/40 "2017-06-03T18:51:05Z")

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Also, and though it comes as no surprise, Griffin is also a liar:

Yesterday: “_I would never want to hurt anyone, especially a child_” (referencing Barron).

Last December: _" **I’m happy to deliver beat down to Donald Trump — and also to Barron** _,” Griffin told Vulture at the Equality Now Gala on December 9.

“You know a lot of comics are going to go hard for Donald, **my edge is that I’ll go direct for Barron**.

[bolding mine]

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