# You're being bullied? Really? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007 "2017-06-03T15:00:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/41 "2017-06-03T19:00:48Z")
> [@cuauhtemoc](#): > > I’ve never been a fan of Kathy Griffin, but I must say I don’t get why this particular thing is such a big deal. She posed for a provocative photograph, a “shocking” image to make herself heard above all the noise. So? Isn’t that how things are done now? > > “Oh, but she crossed the line!” > > What line? There are no lines anymore, have we not learned this yet? That the difference between what we decide to reward and elevate and what we revile and shame is literally based on nothing? Wasn’t the election of Dalond Tpurm the final, indisputable proof of this? > > Turn her off, fire her from hosting your New Year’s Eve thing, take an artistic photograph of her being raped by a moose in effigy, or deal with it in whatever way makes you comfortable, but this “moral outrage” nonsense? Now? What universe are you living in? If you’re up in arms about this, you’re either a strategically cynical conservative trying to score points or a tragically naive Dutch boy with his finger in a papier-mâché dike. If the former, then fuck you. If the latter, my advice is to let it go. The levy is broke and the town is underwater. Pick up a bucket or something. Preach. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/42 "2017-06-03T19:21:21Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Don’t even get me started on THAT hypocritical bullshit. It seems every damn day there’s another violent alt-right asshole killing, or trying to kill, or threatening to kill someone. > > I find posing for a pic with a fake head to be miles away from DEATH threats. One is stupid, the other is a crime. And I agree. But no one who throws around death threats on this is going to be prosecuted. Just like no one who preaches the death of Hillary is getting prosecuted. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/43 "2017-06-03T20:24:24Z")
This whole thing is more of a covfefe in a tea pot than anything else, but gender had nothing to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/44 "2017-06-03T20:34:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Ted Nugent was invited to dinner at the White House. Fuck anybody who criticizes people who criticize Trump. And Fuck people who say it’s only death threats. In the information age that us 2017, that shit is real. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/45 "2017-06-03T20:42:49Z")
\*is. Damn insecure Presidential cellphones… ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/46 "2017-06-03T20:46:54Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Shocking how Griffin is being bullied, when Trump got away with [this](https://www.rt.com/uk/365124-trump-effigy-bonfire-edenbridge/). How is this something Trump did? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/47 "2017-06-03T21:35:32Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > How is this something Trump did? > > Regards, > Shodan And they call the wind Mari… no, they call it _whooooooosh!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/48 "2017-06-04T00:05:20Z")
I feel like the entire thing is a bunch of bullshit meant to generate outrage. I think she knew what she was doing, since she said she planned to go after him last December. I think she knew what to expect and she was fake crying and play-acting when she did that press statement. And I like her okay. I don’t seek her out but I don’t turn it off if she’s in something I’m watching. I didn’t know what to think until I saw that video of her “breaking down”. Until then I felt bad, like she was just making a stupid joke, but what was the meaning anyway? Was she saying she was coming after his head? What was the point in the first place? She had to know people would not react positively. But then someone on social media said “she should be in prison!” and another said she should have her tongue cut out, and then another said she should have her throat slit. And this was just on my local news FB page! People are really overreacting… but then I see her fake tears and wonder what the hell was she thinking and is it playing out just like she’d hoped. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/49 "2017-06-04T00:20:46Z")
It’s amazing how quickly people apologize for things that hit them in the pocketbook. Just amazing. It’s almost as if money were some weird motivational force in the whole matter. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/50 "2017-06-04T01:21:40Z")
[quote=“octopus, post:13, topic:788007”] I don’t think she should be apologizing about the head. But coming on the air with no make-up does make me re think my commitment to freedom of expression. [\QUOTE]You must be a hit at parties. > [@](#): > > And why are you disappointed with the left? Many on the left have abandoned the concept of free speech years ago. I could say the same thing about you and the bullies you’re bending over for. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/51 "2017-06-04T01:46:58Z")
[quote=“Channing\_Idaho\_Banks, post:50, topic:788007”] > [@octopus](#): > > I don’t think she should be apologizing about the head. But coming on the air with no make-up does make me re think my commitment to freedom of expression. > [\QUOTE]You must be a hit at parties. > I could say the same thing about you and the bullies you’re bending over for. You can’t point at a post of mine saying someone cant say something. If Trump wants to suppress currently protected speech then he’s wrong. If right wing mobs crack people’s skulls with bike locks I’ll condemn that too. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/52 "2017-06-04T01:54:58Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > I feel like the entire thing is a bunch of bullshit meant to generate outrage. I think she knew what she was doing, since she said she planned to go after him last December. I think she knew what to expect and she was fake crying and play-acting when she did that press statement. And I like her okay. I don’t seek her out but I don’t turn it off if she’s in something I’m watching. I didn’t know what to think until I saw that video of her “breaking down”. Until then I felt bad, like she was just making a stupid joke, but what was the meaning anyway? Was she saying she was coming after his head? What was the point in the first place? She had to know people would not react positively. But then someone on social media said “she should be in prison!” and another said she should have her tongue cut out, and then another said she should have her throat slit. And this was just on my local news FB page! People are really overreacting… but then I see her fake tears and wonder what the hell was she thinking and is it playing out just like she’d hoped. Thank you! Fully agreed. And she’s not funny, she’s just loud. And states her opinion at full volume. If she had a fake tan, we could compare her to… [gasps]! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/53 "2017-06-04T02:16:53Z")
Do something outrageous: get left and right jib jabbers into a frenzy. Then add to it quick and arguably abject ‘apology’: ie throw gas on the fire as left jib jabbers went into more of a frenzy that right jib jabbers wouldn’t ‘forgive her’. ‘She apologized!!! what’s your problem?’ Then give a truly bizarre press conference saying it was ‘bullying’ for Trump family members to criticize her\*. That one just left everybody I think (those still not too busy jib jabbing to pay attention to it) saying WTF? So she’s a brilliant performance artist (the idea of her original role in Seinfeld was how obnoxious but not funny a ‘comedian’ she was, and that never really changed AFAIK). Or she’s just a lunatic. \*I mean maybe Baron did just see it on TV without being 100% sure it wasn’t real. Or maybe the Trumps are making that up. But he could have. And that’s pretty rotten. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/54 "2017-06-04T09:06:26Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You can’t point at a post of mine saying someone cant say something. If Trump wants to suppress currently protected speech then he’s wrong. If right wing mobs crack people’s skulls with bike locks I’ll condemn that too. This is a thread about bullying. Specifically, it’s about bullying a particular woman. > [@octopus](#): > > I don’t think she should be apologizing about the head. But coming on the air with no make-up does make me re think my commitment to freedom of expression. I googled this an apparently its called makeup shaming/bullying. You are willfully contributing this to a thread about whether so-and-so is really a victim of bullying by adding more bullying. Even if Loser Donald is not guilty of bullying Kathy Griffin, you have stepped up to do this as his surrogate. I hope you are proud of yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/55 "2017-06-04T09:41:37Z")
Is it possible to bully someone who isn’t present and has no idea whatsoever of the alleged bullying? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/56 "2017-06-04T12:49:50Z")
“Make up shaming”. Now I’ve heard everything. Pose for a picture holding the bloody decapitated head of the President. If someone makes a joke about your make up, that’s just as bad. You _cannot_ make this shit up fast enough. Regards, Shodand ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/57 "2017-06-04T13:22:54Z")
Her hair was kinda ratty, too, if anyone noticed. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/58 "2017-06-04T15:06:13Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Also, and though it comes as no surprise, Griffin is also a liar: > > Yesterday: “_I would never want to hurt anyone, especially a child_” (referencing Barron). > > Last December: _" **I’m happy to deliver beat down to Donald Trump — and also to Barron** _,” Griffin told Vulture at the Equality Now Gala on December 9. > > “You know a lot of comics are going to go hard for Donald, **my edge is that I’ll go direct for Barron**. > > [bolding mine] The head as itself is pretty meh nowdays, but I think targeting Barron is as bad as it gets. I haven’t heard anything negative of him so I assume he’s a decent kid. And I can’t imagine what he’s already going through knowing that there are literally billions of people who hate his father. And he’s at quite fragile age after all, who knows what this does to him. It’s bad enough to see his father ( old enough to be his grandfather ) acting like a buffoon and apparently getting demented. I think Melania is smart to keep him away from Washington and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s for Barron why she’s so surly at Donald these days. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/59 "2017-06-04T15:12:11Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > The head as itself is pretty meh nowdays, but I think targeting Barron is as bad as it gets. See, to me, ‘‘going direct for Barron’’ is obviously a joke, and one I think is funny. I do have sympathy for the kid, though, and wonder if he’s old enough to parse that type of humor. So I guess I think it’s funny within an adult context if he’s not hearing it. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007/60 "2017-06-04T15:32:53Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > “Make up shaming”. Now I’ve heard everything. > > Pose for a picture holding the bloody decapitated head of the President. If someone makes a joke about your make up, that’s just as bad. > > You _cannot_ make this shit up fast enough. > > Regards, > Shodand I didn’t make this up and I didn’t equate them. I was just pointing out Kathy Griffin bullying in case people still think that it isn’t happening. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/youre-being-bullied-really/788007.md?page=4)